Red Rover, Red Rover, send Rand Rover over

Wow. This is rich. I hope everyone else is taking notice of this and adjusting their opinion of you accordingly.

We have not reached an impasse. I have exposed the flaw in your argument and you don’t know how to respond expect to declare the discussion at an impasse. Truly pathetic. I have sympathy for you.

Haha. I was reading this thread and thinking the same thing. Anyone who thinks “reasonably forseeable” means anything more than the whims of 12 jurors hasn’t had much exposure to the real world.

When **Little Randy Rover saw Bambi, the part where Bambi’s mom gets roasted: “Hmmm. Venison at 35 cents a pound, about 85 pounds…”

Why don’t you go look up judgement non obstante veredicto and report back to the class. Thanks.

Here’s what’s adjusting my opinion of you: The fact that at 10 o’clock last night, you were here, and at 9 o’clock and 10 o’clock this morning, you are here.

I say the following in the nature of friendly advice, whether you take it or not. I don’t really know you. I hold your personal philosophy in basic contempt but, hey, the world spins the same speed even so, right? At the end of the day, I don’t give a good goddam what you think of me, and I’m confident the feeling is mutual.

But I believe you’ve said you have a new baby, and I believe you’ve said you’re an associate at a firm doing tax law in New York. I may be wrong about the details, but the gist of what follows is the same:

How’s life for a tax law associate in New York? Well, I’m confident that you’ll tell us it’s sunshine and lollipops, but lets look at the reality for large firms doing tax law in the City:

Latham & Watkins lays off 190 associates, 250 staff
Baker & McKenzie cuts 6 associates. That was January. They’ve since made deep cuts in their London and Moscow offices, and rumor is they’re giving New York a second, harder look.
Sidley Austin lays off 89 associates and 140 staff in its U.S. offices. This is in addition to layoffs in London and, again, it is suspected more layoffs are coming.
Cadwalader Wickersham lays off 131 lawyers. That’s as of last summer; again, more layoffs are feared.

More here, and here, and here.

Regardless of whether the axe has fallen, or will ever fall, in your personal woods or not – the axe is out there, big time, and if you’re half as smart as you seem to think you are, you know that. So what the hell are you doing dicking around on a message board at nine and ten in the morning on a work day? Not enough work to do? Danger, Will Robinson! Or just confident they’re not tracking where you’re surfing? They very well could be, as you well know. When they’re out there looking for reasons to pull the trigger on associates, you’re an idiot to give them ammunition, even if you think your job is cast iron because you shit gold nuggets for the firm. People have been wrong about their personal value before, especially in hard times.

And when you get home at night? You’ve got a baby and, I assume, a wife. You admit to not seeing as much of them as you would like, toiling hard worker that you are. So what the hell are you doing dicking around on a message board when you could be spending time with your family?

There is not one thing that any person on this whole Board says that is going to make one iota’s worth of difference in your life. These types of arguments, where you get caught up in the euphoria of give-and-take, thrust-and-parry, the insults, the flamethrowing, the “winning” or the “losing” – they are entertaining bullshit and nothing more. I say this with all due respect: Based solely on what you have disclosed of your personal and professional life, you’ve got better things to do. Be careful with your time. Do not gamble with what you have.

And before you accuse me of hypocrisy: I know nobody’s looking over my shoulder at work because I am Big Brother in my world. I’m the monitor, not the monitored. And my cocker spaniels doesn’t give a shit what I do at home.

Jodi, of all the posts suggesting that I go away, yours is probably the saddest. FTR, I don’t look at the SDMB on my work computer and don’t spend that much time on here at home, and the time I do spend on here at home is not time away from the family because we are all hanging out together reading or watching the boob tube. But thanks for your obvious selfless concern about my well-being.

And let’s not even discuss Sophie’s Choice.

You are aware that every time you post here it displays the date and time, right? If in fact you don’t ever post from work, you’re sure home a lot for a successful big city associate. My concern for you is minimal, but to the degree I have any, it is also in fact selfless – could not be otherwise, since I don’t actually give a shit whether you stay or go and there’s no benefit to me either way. But free advice is worth the price, so do with it what you will.

Even I know that a JNOV is an extremely rare occurrence. The jury’s verdict must be plainly irrational - not merely stupid.

You are aware that there are ways to access the internet other than through the use of a personal computer, right? Personally, I use carrier pigeons.

Contracting rabies was the fault of nobody but Old Yeller. A better dog would have not gotten bitten, so he had to suck the pipe.

You are RFC 1149 compliant, of course? :slight_smile:

Right, because judges like to go around throwing out jury verdicts. :rolleyes:

jodi, AIUI, Rand Rover accesses the Dope on his Blackberry. I have no way of knowing who’s providing the (presumably) WiFi signal for him to do it on, or if those people have any way of knowing who’s using it. Or caring.

Perhaps someone with a better handle on the technology than I have would know.

I don’t use a wifi signal.

Neanderthal.

It hardly matters. The point was not the means by which he was Doping at work, but the fact that he’s Doping at work. I’m honestly not judging him for it, I do it myself, but . . .

I’ve had his job. I had lots of work, which allowed me to meet my (grinding, soul-crushing, interminable) high billable hours. It also meant I wasn’t farting around on Teh Intarwebs, because I wasn’t falsifying my bills, which meant I was working my ass off. All the time. All the time. All the fucking time. This in turn meant when I went on vacay, I actually used my nice salary to aggressively vacation; I didn’t squat at home surfing the web. In this economy, in that position, if I didn’t have that level of work – well, I’d be a bit worried. Depending on my situation, maybe a lot worried. So I’m not saying he’s full of shit, because I wouldn’t know, but I think I detect a fundamental disconnect in whath he says and what he apparently does.

Which, at the end of the day, is not my concern and really none of my business. Just be careful, is all I’m saying. If – huge IF – all is not as portrayed here – what a big shocker that would be! No one ever exaggerates here! – then be a little careful, that’s all. Like I said, he can do with that advise whatever the hell he wants, including dismissing it out of hand. But that’s my piece and I’ve said it.

Whatever. I was under the impression that wireless internet connections come from somewhere, and on somebody’s nickel. I’m not really up on the technology, nor am I interested in playing guessing games with you.

So in addition to being a sociopathic bad father with a brain defect who’s not really a lawyer, I’m also probably going to lose my job (ie, the fake job I don’t really have).

I’m not sure what type of law you practice Jodi (I’d guess litigation based on the intellect you’ve demonstrated–that’s not a compliment BTW), but my practice requires thought and reflection, not just hammering things out. Sometimes in a moment of reflection I’ll take the 5 minutes or less it takes to read new posts and respond. Also, sometimes I’m in line getting lunch or in the elevator or waiting for others to join a call, etc., so there are lots of times to dope without hurting my work performance. However, I do appreciate your sincere concern.

Judgment notwithstanding the verdict. English. Speak it. It is extraordinarily rare for a judge to do such a thing. But being a tax lawyer, you wouldn’t know that. I can tell you that there is something weirder than than what 12 jurors come up with. What a judge comes up with. That’s why trial lawyer always prefer jury trials unless they really know the judge’s predilections.