Red Rover, Red Rover, send Rand Rover over

Just wanted to announce that I’ve just added Zoe to my ignore list. She’s the only member. I don’t want to forget who she is and be tempted to ever respond to her.

You’re a better man than I am, Gunga Din. I have this quixotic inability to let it go when people spout absolute bullshit about me. But I fully understand where you’re coming from with this, and it’s probably a good idea, since no amount of logic or reason would make any difference.

Yeah, but there’s absolute bullshit and then there’s absolute bullshit. Zoe’s “arguments” are so ridiculous that they are self-refuting, so my input isn’t really necessary.

Still, you find them so compelling you must invoke a crutch to restrain yourself from responding? Gotta be something to them if they get under your skin like that.

Buddy, they always are, which is why you’ve done the right thing. I should probably do the same, but I lack your willpower.

I don’t really get this whole thing anyway. None of us ever get any work done thanks to this stupid Board. Why should RR be any different?

:rolleyes: If you read what I said, you’ll see my reason for putting her on ignore.

Also, I can’t believe I’m even responding to a child molestor such as yourself. (Don’ like me calling you a child molestor? Must be because there’s “something to it.”)

Oooh, brilliant deduction, Holmes! Deciding to ignore someone MUST mean that there’s something to their accusations. Couldn’t mean that you just don’t have room in your life for stupid, baseless ad hominem attacks designed solely to demean and discredit. Life’s too short to waste time on lunatics like Zoe, unless you’re someone like me, who enjoys pointing out what a one-track minded nut she is.

Wow, the lengths some of you will go to demonize someone you don’t like is utterly ridiculous. I realize that RR is the new favorite SDMB whipping boy because of his unpopular opinions, but get a sense of perspective for chrissake.

I’ve been called worse, and by better men than you. Knock your own self out, I won’t even put you on ignore; I don’t need a crutch.

I put Zoe on ignore so that I don’t forget who she is because she doesn’t post very much and all of her posts are just the same BS as above. You, on the other hand, post often enough for me to remember that you are an idiot.

It’s because you’re awesome

You really have no reading comprehension, rubystreak. That’s just one of the reasons why I don’t buy your claim to being a teacher. This time notice the underlined portion of my comment:

At no time have I indicated a belief that he is an attorney. To the contrary. Therefore, I haven’t claimed that he is in violation of the Ethics Code – only that he would be if he were an attorney. Nevertheless, you are correct when you say that I am crazy. (Polite golf clap)

I never said that he violated the Code of Ethics. (See above.) Another name for “your little SDMB vendetta” = a post in a thread pitting Rand Rover. Seems like I’m on topic. Reading comprehension problems again? You seem to be the one dragging stuff into the conversation.

By the way, at least one of those accused persons admitted to being less than honest about the persona posting here.

(And really, rubystreak, saying that I’m crazy is a little like pointing to the sky and saying, “Sky.”)

Now. You feel I can’t possibly know Rand Rover well enough to make any observations about how this person would relate to others in the work place or how his self-described home life would benefit a child. Yet you claim to have had your professional education at Cornell, is that correct? Would your developmental and educational psychology classes at Cornell have taught you that reading a message board, posting to a message board, watching television, reading and playing with your child – all at the same time – is good quality family time because you are “hanging out” together? Or would you feel unqualified to make a call on that one. What about bigotry? Does that affect a child? No opinion? And why was it you wanted to study with all those Nobel prize winners? Was it so that you would be reticent in making a judgment call on the uncompassionate?

You are incorrect. None of the accusations were based on my not liking the other person. That’s probably how you operate, not me. There are times now when I’m very fond of Phlospher and I think that PRRis one of the most interesting posters. I don’t really dislike even you. I just don’t think about you all that much. Sorry, but if you’re going to keep showing up in threads where I’m posting, you are probably going to find repetitive behavior maybe a fifth time in 10,000+ quotes in six years plus. Count on it.

Ah, but do you know me well enough?

Well, of course you do. I’m not going to pretend the way that you do. This is the Pit. You’ve read a few posts of mine and you can make a judgment call. Have at! I will either not defend myself or will post once only to say that I will not be defending myself in the post. That will let people know that I am aware of the pitting. Dopers really like it when someone else speaks for them. Some of them do.

Gee, rubystreak, I must have confessed a thousand times on this message board to being mentally ill, clinically depressed, having a mood disorder, having mental health issues, being unipolar. I’ve done just about everything but use sky-writing.

“Insanity” is most often used as a legal term, not a diagnosis. But if you want to describe me as “clinically insane,” you will be just your usual inaccurate self.

I find it interesting that as a “teacher,” you find clinically ill people a “waste of time.” Or maybe it is “insane” people that you find to be a “waste of time.” I don’t think that I ever find anyone or anything to be permanently a waste of time.

You really shouldn’t put yourself down that way.

Interesting choice of adjectives (quixotic) and professions to be in given this compulsion!

Dr. Tick had this quixotic inability to stop quivering whenever his patients started bleeding during surgery.

You are correct. The original copy that I had as a source said “required” even though it was not enforced through the disciplinary process. However, the final draft does say that it is voluntary. (And it is the final draft that I linked to.)

I didn’t “declare” anything about “some sort of 24 hour/day work on a specific matter.” You are the only truly incompetent interpreter of the rules who referred to that. Way to go! Just make stuff up, why don’t you? That really impresses Dopers in this thread.

I did not say that a firm ever disbars anyone. Look at the sentence again. A firm, if it wants to have you disbarred, can use your discriminatory remarks to have you disbarred by the State Bar.

I don’t think I said anything to the contrary, but I wince.

This seems to be a good time for me to point out that there is already a Pitting underway in this thread. Since I’m making it a point not to defend myself there, I don’t want to get caught in the crossfire overhere when the threads overlap, so I will end my participation here.

I will have to admit that the Code of Ethics swipe was not well thought out. Even though I was speaking of if he had been an attorney, the violations supported by any evidence here would have been slippery at best.

The requirement of integrity and truthfulness appears to be for other than just in the courtroom and in legal dealings. That’s supposed to be a matter of the way you live your life. Read it for yourself. YMMV.

I trust Guin’s eyeballs are back in their sockets. She knows that she can get away with that with me.

My daughter has her JD. Better play nice. (Okay. She’s a step-daughter and we see each other at funerals.)

This is a whoosh, right? Because none of my developmental and educational psychology classes spent a single second indoctrinating us as to what comprised “good quality family time,” nor whether bigotry affected a child.

(Check that. We did discuss the flawed studies that indicate that a child’s performance depended heavily on the teacher’s expectations of the child; if you squint, you could claim that was looking at whether bigotry affected the child.)

Zoe, you are continuing your career of being self-righteous and pretending to far more knowledge than you actually have. How you reached your age without learning a shred of humility I’ll never know.

Well, babe, if you were capable of reading, you’d see that I was responding to Second Stone’s claim that it was just peachy to accuse Rand Rover of being in violation of the Code of Ethics, not yours. So, you can apologize for your baseless accusations in whichever Pit thread you choose.

No. That is not correct. My undergrad degree from Cornell is not in English or education. My two Masters are, and they’re not from Cornell. Sorry, Nancy Drew, you fail.

What you fail to realize is that this isn’t real life. You don’t know Rand Rover. You don’t have enough information to judge him as a lawyer or a father. You can judge his posting persona and find it wanting, as I find yours vastly lacking in intelligence and kindness. And yes, you do have your little personal vendettas that you take far overboard. The other Pit thread is my cite.

Wrong. It’s not insane people I find a waste of time. Just you, Zoe. Just you.

Zoe, I always thought you were pretty okay… but you’re not.

No. It’s true that a lawyer may be disciplined - even disbarred - for offenses unrelated directly to the practice of law… say, for example, writing a worthless check from his personal account.

But there’s no rule against being a unsympathetic or heartless person, or indeed no rule to cover any of the conduct Rand Rover has exhibited here or admitted to. It’s not a question of “slippery at best;” there is quite simply nothing, zero, here that could possibly lead to disciplinary action of any sort being taken.

Actually, they just popped out again and are hanging right around my nose. Jesus, Zoe.
I can believe that he’s probably exaggerating a wee bit as to how wealthy he is, or how secure he might be in his job, (if only because of how shitty the economy is,) but that’s just waving one’s dick around. That’s hardly trolling or making up an entire persona.

Dude’s a dick, yeah, but considering your track record Zoe, I’m not ready to pronounce him a phony purely on YOUR say so.

Fuck you, and the horse you rode in on.

I started this post to correct Frank’s misunderstanding of the nature of state bars and bar disciplinary proceedings (e.g., at least here in Ga., the bar is formed by statute and authority of the S.Ct., and disciplinary proceedings are handled by the S.Ct.), but saw that has already been done and acknowledged, so I guess I’ll use this posting opportunity to say Zoe, what the fucking fuck? Just how many languages does your ass speak? If this thread is any indication of an overrall tendancy to pretend to know shit you don’t well, damn, all I can say is, stop it. Stop it, now. Be quiet. You don’t know half of half of the shit you think you know, and the more you talk, the more ingorant you look. Just stop.

Stop.
Stop it.
Stop.