Don’t have to make it available to the wealthy - they can travel elsewhere easily. The problem for the GOP is if the middle-class discover they can’t escape.
For a start, maybe folks could stop shitting on those of us who are still down here, fighting the insanity? Like dreaming of turning over 5 million of us into refugees–if we meet undefined political qualifications as “one of the good ones”. (I like LSLGuy, but that post pissed me off, so it’s a good example.)
I understand the impulse to rant, but it sure as hell doesn’t help the morale of people who’ve been on the losing end for years, and it just might further energize the villains, if they should happen to ever see it.
In short, if Dopers would like to help, they could start by not harming.
Definitely! We’ve millions of relatively like-minded US citizens residing in Texas, & they don’t deserve to have their US citizenship with its rights and protections and responsibilities hand-waved away by secessionists. The feds intervened to preserve the union and to protect US citizens in states in rebellion before, and they will again, at need.
Strong disagree. White Apartheid South Africa didn’t accept change until enough of them decided they were tired of being the bad guys. When Texans get tired of being mocked, maybe they’ll do something about it. Until then, we can’t help them.
Deleted because I was frustrated, and it was unhelpful.
Couldn’t blame you, really.
Texas needs to stop whining and start fighting. Saudi Arabia has more enlightened abortion laws than Texas, let that fucking sink in.
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Cut all supporters of the theocracy out of your social life, including family, and let them know why. For example, that means telling your patents that they won’t be seeing you or their grandkids at Xmas or Thanksgiving. They dont get to be hateful bigots without consequences.
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Engage with groups that are fighting for human rights in Texas by giving them as much time and money as you can spare and then give more.
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Be engaged at the local level, the fascist group Moms for Liberty have shown that even local school board elections are contested space. Every election has to be a battleground.
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Be prepared to push back against the oppressors every time they open their mouth. That means being ready to get in to it with some prick at a bbq when he starts spouting off. Let them know that they don’t speak for everyone.
Oh wow, thanks @madmonk28 !!! Thank goodness we finally have someone like you to tell us to “stop whining and start fighting”!! That’s never occurred to us! And with such cunning, revolutionary tactics! These certainly aren’t things that millions of Texans who disagree with our state government regularly do! Be honest, you’re actually a highly placed Democratic operative secretly posting on the Dope aren’t you? You sly dog!
Reminds me a lot on the threads on what the Dems “should” do.
Conflates lack of results with lack of action.
“Millions of conservatives will magically and instantly change their views if simply confronted about it - did you try that yet?”
Srsly?
Sure, but Texans in this thread saying “why won’t anyone help us” is much the same.
When things were looking dire for women in Ohio, my daughter (a nurse) joined a group that would help Ohio women travel to Pennsylvania for abortions.
Luckily Ohio’s situation turned around and her group was not needed. Anything similar happening in states adjacent to Texas?
One person said that.
Good question. I’d like to know as well.
I know there’s groups within the state helping getting women to neighboring states but I have no idea if they’re working with organizations outside the state.
New Mexico:
Okay, so the donations, civil rights suits, etc should be coming from outside Texas? I’m still at a loss about how we non Texans can help the sane Texans if change won’t be coming from within.
Some of them? Sure
All of the funding and effort? No, and that’s not going to happen anyway.
That’s the thing - the perfect cannot become the enemy of the good. If we require certainty of success before contributing, why bother? And that’s been the gist of many of the responses, i.e. “why try if we don’t see immediate results?” You don’t fight the battles that you are guaranteed to win, you fight the battles that need your help and you can contribute to.
So it becomes, as usual, a matter of priorities. How highly should some states and issues be prioritized over others and how should resources be allocated accordingly? And there’s clearly a healthy difference of opinion on what that allocation should be.
Well, SCOTUS will hear a suit about mifepristone and how accessible it should be. This is the same court that said the right to abortion should be given back to the States, the people in those states, and their representatives. I don’t know how a suit started by a non Texan will help Texans. Get out the vote donations? Okay.
One problem with how effort should be allocated is that many are fighting the same battles on home territory.
I’m lucky to be in a state that doesn’t ban abortion, though a month ago the governor was trying very hard to convince Virginians to restrict it more. He was wrong about how many Virginians wanted more restrictions (thankfully!) So right now I’m not fighting that battle here at home as vigorously as (some) Texans must be.
So send money, that’s a thing I can do. To organizations that help on the ground, get out the vote or directly help women in need.
Civil right suits, not so much. What else?
NOT reluctantly - Fuck Texas Women!
Texas made the decision and doubled down on it to force a woman to risk her life bringing a baby to term that has a fatal fetal flaw and will not live. Why don’t they just pass a law stating that it is legal to spit on women anytime and anywhere you want?!!
I condemn Texas women because they represent half of Texas’ voters, yet those same people who are treating women like complete shit will be elected again and again! Thanks a lot, “sisters”, for being gutless backstabbing traitors!!!
I’m not asking anyone outside of Texas to “help.” But what infuriates me is the insinuation by some in this thread that the millions of Texans who oppose our autocratic state government deserve what we get. Either because we’re not doing enough, or we refuse to uproot our lives and move to a new state. Never mind that many Texans already regularly engage in just the kind of organizing and activism that these learned outsiders exasperatedly implore us to do. While also trying to, you know, live our lives. But it’s treated as self-evident from the fact that we haven’t yet overcome the entrenched Republican power structure that we aren’t “doing enough.” Or we’re stupid for not abandoning our jobs, homes and communities to flee the state.
I’ll also say, much of the commentary about how Texans need to “stop whining” and take action comes from a place of unexamined privilege. The most helpless victims of Greg Abbott and his ilk are the millions of barely-scraping-by Texans who lack healthcare because Republicans won’t expand Medicaid and can’t afford to go out-of-state for an abortion. Should we condemn the residents of Houston’s Fifth Ward or border colonias for not doing enough to improve their own situation? “Hey Lupe, I know you just finished a 12-hour shift at your second job and the kids need to be fed, but your priority really should be manning the phone bank at the ACLU.”
You might as well address that to every single woman across the USA and in a number of other democracies who ever voted for whatever party had the anti-abortion plank.
They sure will feel chastened by knowing you consider them class traitors.