Republican vs Democrats

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After a converation with my wife tonight, and hearing several people on tele state both parties were evil, I started wondering.

What is the break down of evil Americans and their political parties?

For instance, Was Ted Bundy a Republican or Democrat? How about the guys in Texas who dragged James Byrd Jr to his death? Are members of the KKK commonly Republican or Democrat? How about guys like Jimmy Jones?

Does anyone have any facts or information on this subject?

(I suspect this might turn ugly, so I’m sorry in advance)

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They’re all Greens.

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Bad people are Republicans. Remember David Duke, KKK leader in Louisiana. He ran for office as a Repub.

Do gooders are Democrats (Liberals).

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Bill H: very funny.

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John Wayne Gacy (spelling?) was very active in the democratic party even becoming one of their local leaders. I learned this by watching Biography on A&E.

Marc

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The people who hold to my ideals and are forthright and the standard bearers of democracy belong to MY Party; the Correct One; the one what anyone with half a brain would belong to because it supports the goals and ideals that are correct for America. My Party supports the ideals that all Americans strive for and through which, America will be come a land of peace and prosperity the likes of which have never been seen in the history of our country.

The icky, nasty people belong to that OTHER Party, the one that’s in league with the forces of evil, ignorance and narrow-mindedness; the party what forces you to walk lock-step with their insidious platforms; who’s ultimate goal it to overthrown the present government and set up a regime that will bring an age of darkness and dispair to the political landscape.

See, wasn’t that easy to explain?

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Evil Republicans:
Joe McCarthy
Spiro Agnew
David Duke

Evil Democrats:
George Wallace (before redemption)
Richard Daley
Huey Long

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Ask the killers and rapists on Death Row (a down and dirty definition of evil people) their party affiliations (Here I’m guessing) and most would probably say they’re Democrats because, as a rule of thumb, most Democrats want to abolish the death penalty. With this gross simplification, I would say evil people are more likely to be Democrats. Of course, some of the redneck dudes who stomp on blacks might having been Republicans before their conviction. :smiley:

There are more ways to be evil than be a killer and rapist on Death Row; not all evil, in fact, involves acts of death and violence. I always think of FDR as one evil SOB for the New Deal. (I’ll never escape paying into his bilious Socialist Insecurity.) But FDR is a beloved former President to many people and they wouldn’t think him evil at all.

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and Ted Bundy was a “young republican”,
here: Ted
Do you really think it means anything in particular?
(by the way Pyrrhonist - ‘guessing’ they’re democrats because of the death penalty? :rolleyes: )

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Republicans consistantly receive the majority of the white male vote in elections. 90% of serial killers are white males. Therefore most serial killers are Republicans.

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Love it. But then, what else can I expect from some one who takes on the name of my hero (BB)'s nemisis? :smiley:

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Would you prefer:

1a) Most people don’t want to die; 2a) Criminals are people; 3a) Therefore Criminals don’t want to die

1b) Most Republicans want criminals to die; 2b) Most people won’t belong to a political party contrary to their wants; 3b) Result of 3a determines that criminals don’t want to die; 4b) Therefore most criminals will not be Republicans.

1c) Most Democrats don’t want criminals to die; 2c) Most people join party that supports their wants; 3c) Result of 3a determines that criminals don’t want to die; 4c) Therefore most criminals are Democrats.

How about:

1c) Most criminals in prison are black; 2c) Most blacks are Democrats; 3c) Therefore most criminals in prison are Democrats?

Of course, syllogisms don’t hold much the philosophical weight anymore. :frowning:

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One’s party affiliation is intrinsically tied to the way one votes. To “officially” belong to a political party (we are talking about big “D” and big “R” here, aren’t we?) one must be a registered voter. How many people on deathrow are registered (or even allowed to register) to vote?

Once again, applying Pyrrhonist-esque logic, we can safely blame all capital crime on …those evil Independents!

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Pyrrhonist *
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except, of course that there are people on death row asking for the death penalty.

** cite please for A? AFAIK, death penalty supporters exist in both parties, as well as death penalty detractors.

See above.

and as far as:

while blacks are over represented on death row, current numbers show that they do notconsitute ‘most’ of death penalty cases (close but not quite), ditto, I believe for the prison population at large.

So, instead of wild ass guesses based on flawed premises, your options could have been either to say ‘gee I don’t know’ or try to find out (although I’ve never seen political afiliations listed for death row inmates).

and, besides, the OP was asking specifically about the very smaller sub group of known mass murderer types.

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So. A few ideas huh?

I guess no one knows of a paper someone wrote on this subject?

I think a large list would be interesting to read. :smiley:

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My two cents -

This question is fairly meaningless because of the people that we are dealing with. For instance; Ted Bundy was a quintessential “Young Republican” because he knew it was a good front; encouraging potential victims to trust him. Jim Jones was a hero in Bay Area democratic circles for his work with the underpriveged; but it is easy to see in hindsight that he too was just trolling for victims.
The Klan tended to be democratic in the democratic south and republican in the republican north (we’re talking about the twenties to fifties here, there have actually been three fairly distinct Klans, historically).
Based on what limited knowledge I have of serial killers; I would have to say that I suspect that they are generally so obsessed with their “hobby” that they couldn’t care less about things like “politics”.
And finally you get people who are beyond definition - The Unibomber was heavily environmental (democrat ?) and very anti-big-government (republican ?) or McVeigh (sp?) who was very anti-big-government (republican ?) and anti-opression-of-a-small-group (democrat ?)

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First off, keep in mind that, once you get beyond the simple “voting record”, there often isn’t a clear-cut distinction 'tween the two major parties (a gray area, if you will).

Second off, some people may call themselves one thing, while their actual beliefs may fall into line with another.

Thirdly, I have no doubts that there have been just as many crazy, evil, stupid liberals as there have been crazy, evil, stupid conservatives. I believe the OP is aware of this, so this isn’t a debate about “Which party is more evil?”

Now, onto the bulk of the response…

The people who seem to be the most vocal anti-KKK (Jesse Jackson, NAACP, etc.) also seem to be a tad more liberal, so it’s very convenient for them to label the KKK as conservative/Republican (I am neither agreeing nor denying this assertion). I imagine that if someone tries to disagree with these assertions, they’re branded as pro-KKK, and thus, they choose to avoid voicing their dissent (feel free to disagree with that… it’s 2:19 AM, and I’m going to bed after this post).

However, it’s very easy to list Tim McVeigh and Ted Kazinsyxzzxkyskxkzksjhgaf- uh, the Unabomber (you try spelling his name off the top of your head when you’re sleep-deprived!) as “liberal”, since they seemed to be very anti-“establishment” (peace out, man!) along with being rather activist-esque about carrying out their political standings.

In either case, I think it’s clear that the more-extreme examples of humanity are just that… extreme. Ted Bundy is in no way the “average” American (but is he related to Al at all?). Anyway, off to bed with the SPOOFER!!!