Yes, and that’s the right way, but at Hacked target they were demanding to swipe or no sale, even the manager.
You wont get fined/ imprisoned for failure to swipe the ID and steal all the data. But even if you do swipe the ID card, and it’s not for the person handing it to you, you can get in trouble.
So swiping or scanning isnt helpful. That’s just so Target can build up their database- which was hacked.
LOOKING at the ID and CHECKING to see if that’s the right person, right DOB and if it isnt obviously fake- that’s the right way.
Swiping doesnt do anything but steal data for marketing purpose, data which was later hacked by Identity thieves.
Nice of you not to address the part about getting fired. :dubious:
There’s all kinds of stuff customers hate that employees have to do, that they’ll get fired if they don’t do it. Don’t take it out on them.
I didnt. I wrote a letter to the CEO.
No, it’s my company covering its ass. The fact that its also covers my ass is just a bonus.
My store doesn’t *require *us to scan the ID of someone obviously old enough to buy alcohol. Maybe Target does - I haven’t shopped at Target in years (in part because my store sells pretty much everything Target does, and I get an employee discount at my store). If someone young is a regular customer that I remember/know and I know they are over 21 (or over 18 for some items) I don’t have to ask for ID.
And we don’t scan passports because there isn’t a way for us to do so, but we certainly do take them as ID. Maybe you could start carrying your passport for that purpose?
As for hair color - have you noticed how many kids these days are dyeing their hair grey? And how many old ladies are dyeing theirs pink, purple, green, etc.?
But if you pay with a card or smartphone or those new-fangled magic watches the store is still getting information on you whether your ID is swiped/scanned or not. If you don’t want to give any data the only solution is to use old-fashioned cash, which can’t be hacked (although it can be counterfeited, so examine your bills).
The underlined stuff is NOT on your ID. Target is getting that from somewhere else… like your credit/debit card. Or store-specific apps. In fact, ALL of the data mentioned can be captured when you use a payment card or app. So your assumption that it’s the swiping of your ID card for age verification purposes is where all this data is coming from would seem to have a certain large flaw. In fact, your cite makes it sound like it was a breach of the store credit card data.
Sounds more like a reason to not shop at Target rather than to obsesses about how retail clerks verify your age for legal purposes.
Some of the sparkling grape juice bottles do look a great deal like the bottles for sparkling wine. There are also several brands of root beer packaged to look like alcoholic beer.
On the flip side, the no-alcohol-on-Sunday-morning laws trigger for “non-alcohol” beer and “malt beverages”. We also - by state law - can not sell the “non-alcohol” beers to people under 21. Sorry, kid, I can not sell you that O’Doul’s, you have to be over 21 in this state to buy it. I don’t make the rules. Any 18 year old in this state is old enough to vote so if they don’t like it they need to get a few thousand or more of their like-minded buddies together and lobby for change in Indianapolis.
^ And, once again, this.
I don’t think I have ever handed over my license and had it swiped, for any purchase, ever. Where is this happening and for what purchases?
I just open my wallet and they look at it, occasionally asking me to verify the date. Granted, I am WELL over the minimum age and I look it, but in certain states like TN everyone is carded (for alcohol at least) no matter what.
If you cant tell a 20 yo from a 50 yo, you have no business being in retail. Or even in public.
Yes, but other sensitive data. is, and yes, they captured CC data, customer data and Dr license data, from which they got DrLic # and DoB.
And no government agency requires that the ID be scanned. For now the 10th time, I have no issues with a OD being checked, just when it is scanned and the data stored in a unsafe manner. So stop trying to make this somehow I am against ID being checked, that’s a total falsehood . The laws dont have to change. IDs can & should be checked. ID should never be scanned or swiped.
At Target, unless they have changed their policies recently, and wherever Broomstick works.
*Some of those retailers are scanning your driver’s license when you do buy alcohol to verify you’re over 21, but that could be giving them access to your personal information.
The bar code on the back of your license is an electronic copy of everything that’s on the front — your name, address, birthday, height, weight, and driver’s license number. If that information falls in the wrong hands, you could be at risk.
“Anything you scan anything electronically, you want to be concerned because you don’t know where the data’s going, how they’re storing it, where they’re sending it to,” said Isaac Elliott, a senior security engineer at Alias Forensics.*
The problem isn’t, of course, telling 20 from 50. It’s telling 18 from 25, or 20 from 30. The “Age 40 and under” rule in this state is to give retail drones a safety zone so people can’t get pissy because some youthful looking 30 year old decides to pitch a fit because she’s asked for ID (not that that stops some people). If you look under 40 we can card you. Actually, legally, we can card you even if your age is in the triple digits but we agree that’s sort of ridiculous.
You are correct. The GOVERNMENT does not require it. However, some retail stores do. You are free to not patronize stores with that practice, but if you do go into such a store don’t take out your ire on the workers who have zero control over store policies.
I got it the first time. I get it. However, if you shop at certain stores they will ask to scan and/or swipe your ID. This is not something the cashier or service desk person has any input into. If that is the store policy then that is what the employees pretty much have to do to keep their jobs, and they value their jobs more than your 30 seconds of upset. Particularly if their management is going to back them up on the practice. If you don’t want your ID scanned/swiped/touched don’t shop at those stores.
Until the laws change to forbid it stores will continue to want to scan or swipe your ID. It is completely legal for them to make that request. They will continue to make that request. Almost no one protests, so they have no incentive to change the practice.
Again, bitch to corporate headquarters if you’re not happy about it. Taking it out on the retails clerks and cashiers will do nothing whatsoever - other than make people unhappy.
And again* for the tenth time*, i didnt bitch to the clerk, i complained to the manager and wrote a letter to the CEO.
I don’t object to this. If you had good reading comprehension, I said I object to allowing them to require me to remove my ID and scanning it. Not to the point where I’ve abandoned my cart – although I support others’ decisions to do so – and not a frequency to give up shopping at Meijer/Meijer’s.
And, importantly, cashiers have discretion. There’s no fucking way I’m under 40, let alone under 21. The rare cashier that cards me is an asshole, not someone who’s overly scared of inadvertently breaking the law.
Complaining to the manager does no good whatsoever, either - they have zero say in the matter. For that matter, at my company the freakin’ store director has no say in it. That policy is set by corporate headquarters. Complaining on the local level is wasted air. Rinse and repeat for every other big box store.
If you want something like that changed you have to direct your comments to headquarters.
Oh, I get that, too - I don’t card people obviously old enough to buy booze. I’m not an asshole (at least not while on the job - I confess to occasional lapses otherwise). There are certainly assholes out there.
Altho that is true, often a manager can override a system.
Hmm, do you think the** CEO **might have a say?:rolleyes: “…and wrote a letter to the CEO.”
And clearly Broomstick, you wont get fired unless you scan every single ID- since you have said :
I don’t card people obviously old enough to buy booze
and
Honestly, more than half the time it doesn’t even work that well and we have to resort to the old Eyeball Mark I but store policy is that we at least try to scan it first.
And PLEASE stop saying that I need to stop giving the clerk grief, since I have said *over and over and over and over *I did not do so.
Since when did this thread become the DrDeth/Broomstick Show, with each wanting the last word?
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DrDeth and Broomstick, the two of you are hijacking this entire thread. Stop the back and forth bickering.
Hello, friend. 
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What is it with people not reading signs?
Yet again I had to open up a lottery vending machine to retrieve a bill for someone who inserted it in a machine with an “Out Of Order” sign on it. Taped across the insertion slot. So not only did the person NOT read the sign, they had to physically remove it from the machine to put their money in.
Not only do we have a second lottery vending machine identical to the first, the service desk also sells lottery tickets. But no, this person has to use this particular machine. (I’ve discovered gamblers can be quite superstitious - some regard a particular machine as “lucky”.) Despite the Out Of Order sign. Taped across the bill slot.
Have also had people try to force money through the slot where the printed lotto tickets come out.
Oddly enough, it’s only the native English speakers who do this - I can’t ever recall needing to rescue money in this situation for people who speak English as a second language.