Sauron
Thank you, you just grew a couple feet in my eyes.
bows
Well, I already have two feet, but I guess I can always use a couple more.
Sauron
I knew, even as I typed it, that someone was going to say that. I’m switching to metric.
Yep, same result too. Color me unsurprised.
Lest Rev. give anyone the wrong impression, I was having fun at his expense. None of my posts there were intended to be harmful in any way. The majority were simply there to see what drivel he would come up with next, the ones that were serious were to suggest ways he could improve his experience on the SDMB. Similar suggestions have been made in this thread but he appears to be ignoring them for whatever reason, which is probably for the best. I’d rather be ignored than attacked.
On a serious note, it would probably help to tone down your posting style a tad until you get a better feel for this place. I’m one of those who believe you could be a significant contributor to this place, but that won’t happen if you get banned before you’ve had a chance to scope out the lay of the land.
I honestly believe this is the best message board on the Web. It’d be a shame not to be able to participate.
AIEEEE!! Eyes with feet! Run away! Run away!
Seems that now jjimm has become his muse.
I don’t know, Rev, but taunting a message board just to get fodder for your web page? It’s not going to make you very popular around here. I know you’re not after popularity (nor should you be), but if this is all you do on these boards (or forums, whatever), we might not appreciate your presence forever.
Which is exactly what I meant when I noted that you spend all your time in the BBQ Pit.
I’d be intrigued, as I’m sure would RM, to hear you distinguish the behavior you describe here from common trolling.
By the way, Reverend Mykeru, if you’re going to be “run off” then get it over with. And if not, why don’t you shut up about it?
Jeff, we’re in good company: the esteemed Reverend has kindly deigned to flame me on his site. Highlights include
I disregard his ignorance of the political situation in my adopted home (though I suspect this is actually a ‘humourous’ stereotype), and, though 3,887 posts is rather a lot, I have been posting for 19 months (that’s an average of 6 posts a day, Rev). A quick Google indicates that the Rev spends some of his leisure time scooting around the web posting irritating, though rather eloquent, drive-bys to a number of boards.
I think he sees himself as a sort of comedic L’Etranger, taking a detached, yet supercilious, view of the world around him, and thence posting wry observations to his blog. But as he himself says:
Too true.
I thank you for your attention, but you misinterpet my ‘happy bunny’ comment: this was actually because you said you were on Prozac recently, not the cynicism of your writing.
Don’t panic! It’s probably just The Residents.
And, just for comparison purposes of course, the RM has at this moment 119 posts, all made since the 14th of this month. That’s a handy 10.46 posts per day, or more than 150% the rate that jjimm’s been posting at over the last year and a half.
In other words, the Reverend Mykeru has spent more time out of his average day posting to this message board, forum, or gathering of nitwits that he decries so fiercely than has jjimm, one of the boards’ staunchest regulars.
Way to go, RM. There’s a dose of ‘careful thought and reasoned wit’ for you.
Shouldn’t this thread be closed, too?
My first post was a lighthearted comment and he assumes the worst, as does Grendel. Grendel apparently accepts my explanation because I hear nothing else from him; Rev., however, not only continues to assume the worst but targets me as the leader of the mob. Naturally, this vilification didn’t sit well with me and things went downhill from there. He’s been exhibiting unwarrented attacks on those who are trying to help, look at how he responded to Munch. And he calls me a troll? Please. Seems like the concept of GIGO is foreign to him.
If I was really trolling, wouldn’t I still be trolling in this thread too?
I dunno. Maybe. It was opened today, at 6pm. It’s now almost 9. Maybe no one saw it. Maybe the mods are at dinner, or at home. Did you report it?
Mykeru, persecution complex aside, maybe we should look at the facts. The very first time I had ever addressed you was here,. In that post, I offered you a bit of friendly advice, which garnered not one iota of recognition from you, even to this day. The second time was here, when I attempted to joke with you about the situation, which P.T. seemed to get, but again, garnered no response from you. Finally, I posted this to show that both sides in the thread were acting in an extremely rude manner. Again, no response. It wasn’t until after those three posts that I finally starting calling you out about your confrontational attitude. Why am I not surprised that my early attempts to be civil and non-abrasive with you are now completely forgotten.
Then, in the thread you’ve mentioned (and I linked to on the first page), I again attempt to joke with you. I now realize that was a mistake because I overestimated you. I thought you were somebody who could take it as well as dish it out, someone who wouldn’t take this too seriously. My bad for giving you too much credit. After that, I proceeded to give with the information you requested. In return, I got a reply joke, which led me, wrongfully again, to believe you had a sense of humor. However, you then proceeded to misstate my points, ignore them completely, and backpedal faster than Lance Armstrong. Despite that, I offered a olive branch by stating:
and asked for an elaboration of your point. In response you go, once again, into martyr mode, without once giving me the respect of a response. Finally you open this thread and again misrepresent everything that happened. Even now, after three explanations, you still vehemently refuse to deal with the explanation about my citation of the AOL case. But it’s all there in black and white, and our gentle readers can determine it for themselves. Your intellectual dishonesty, your steadfast refusal to add anything other than insults and “poor me’s”, and your confrontational attitude. I, for one, know I will be taking anything you post worth a grain of salt.
Oh, I wasn’t asking that. I meant a more pleasant webmaster to answer my questions. I don’t understand why what appears to be a simple weblog would cost more than $60.00 a year, but perhaps you have…um, more stuff that I can’t see.
As a wise man once told a different poster on these very boards, learn to read and get over yourself.
Now I’ve think I’ve given your attention-whorin’ self more of mine then I should have, so let’s agree to part ways here.
Jeff Olsen
Well, I would think on a message board where satire/sarcasm/irony is misconstrued, intentionally or not, by even preternaturally insightful folks like UncleBeer that you would mark your posts to indicate when you are having fun at my expense and when you are being serious.
Or you could schedule and be a troll only on alternate Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, just to avoid confusion.
Of course, the easiest way for me to accomplish that is to pay not attention to you at all. Imagine the confusion if I take you seriously when you are trolling and vice versa.
Sauron
Well, I don’t know from “toning down” in the sense that I write as I write. I even talk like this with my mid-Atlantic accent that comes from having an English mother and a father from Brooklyn and my sense of humor is similarly a strange hybrid.
Besides, let’s look at the post that I extracted from above. It was toned down, even concilliatory, and a couple posters took that as an opportunity to take a cheap shot or two.
This may be the best forum on the net, but you may also be aware, and some posters have even discussed this, that this is a forum where posters eat their young and get into feeding frenzies when there is one part per billion of blood in the water. Certainly I wouldn’t “tone down” to the extent of showing weakness on a forum where, apparently, running off new posters is a game for the elite rather like fox hunting.
What would be even more of a shame is to be a cowering whore beaten into submission by some nasty posters who don’t believe in reciprocity.
** Coldfire**
Yeah, sure. Him and Jeff.
Is that what I’m doing? I don’t think so. The only reason you kids even know I have a web page (actually a domain, since we are here on the SDMB where hairs are not only split once, but also perpendicular to the first split and then again until it looks like the world’s smallest party favor) is because I had to refer to it to deflect spurious accusations of being a sock puppet. It’s the same reason UncleBeer knew which forums to check to dig up an “unsavory” post from a year ago.
I have only referenced the SDMB twice, the first time arising out of Jeff Olsen’s clever trolling wherein he simply refused to believe I owned and operated that site. Of course now he says he was just feigning being a blockhead to get a reaction without actually calling it trolling. It’s the troll that dare not speak its name. The second time was because jjimm made a comment that was useful to me in order to make a point.
If, as you claim, I am using the SDMB as “fodder” for my web site, then the ASPCA and PETA will certainly get on my ass for starving this horse. Since I deleted all old content at the begining of the year I have used as “fodder” a website, a news article, personal experience, various images of Jesus, including Missus Gumby’s iconing Smokin’ Jebus from the Internet Infidels, some old photos, the Columbia, an old photo I took, news accounts and IRC logs on Brandon Vedas’ death, more news articles, the Michael Jackson documentary, a couple web sites someone pointed out to me, more Columbia, pop up ads, more personal experience, more news articles, more personal experience, even more personal experience. and so on. Only twice, and obliquely at that, have I referenced the SDMB.
And why not? For the most part my site is dictated by whatever I happen to be thinking about at the time, or whatever I feel like putting up as sort of a running tally of essays. Folks that either deny I run the site, or directly comment on the site in the SDMB should not be at all surprised if I comment back.
As far as “fodder” goes, you will know it when you get my complete and undivided attention.
What if I bring pie?
Then what was the previous comment about? Are you getting paid by the word?
Really? I was under the impression that you didn’t appreciate my presence now and the only way I would be acceptable to those posters that want to draw blood with impunity is for me to get a lobotomy and cut my testicles off.
Well, I had previous indicated that I didn’t, but I know you would show that old Doper spirit and just ignore it.
jjimm
Its more of a knock at the English, since my mother is English, half my family is in England and my sister went to school in England, which she still describes as “a Third World country in disguise”. One of my favorite old B3TA graphics was “Bwana Knows Best: A lighthearted romp through British colonialism”.
I also make comments on New York Italians.
And I thought the “political situation” was the usual English behavior right out of a Brian Friel play: Land, subjugate the natives, change the Gaelic place names to a more or less accurate anglicized equivalent and shoot them if they complain. Potato blight is just icing.
Leisure time? That’s hard work.
Plus I drink cafe au lait by my mothers coffin and shoot arabs on the beach (before anyone gets offended, read Camus). In any case it’s better than State of Seige, because plague sucks.
If, for no other reason, that that isn’t the intent. Incidentally, it isn’t a blog. It’s HTML. I have also written scholarly papers, participated in poetry readings and slams, done reader’s theatre, written for small-time radio shows, all of which are good in their own place and time and none of which are as entertaining as a good net rant. Of course, not everything I write is rant, but I’m inconsistent that way.
Yes, but if you read what I wrote I think I did explain that I wasn’t taking it for depression. Happiness or the lack thereof has nothing to do for what I take it for, which is situationally specific panic attacks, which is a physiological condition unrelated to depression.
Fortunately or not, Prozac, as the most widely prescribed selective seratonin reuptake inhibitor is useful for a whole lot of things. I once had a dog who was given prozac for obsessive-compulsive behavior that lead to licking lesions.
I don’t have licking lesions either.
White Lightning
I thought from previous threads that you were buggering off from these discussions, or is there a 24 hour statute of limitations on those pronouncements?
Because there’s nothing like a thread called “Reverend Mykeru you fucking tool”, which is your baby, I recall, for making one kick back and watch the world go by.
See above.
Thanks, I’m sure the guys at World Wide Rant appreciate the plug.
Jeff Olsen(again)
I looked back over it and I still don’t quite catch your homage to Gilbert and Sullivan.
Qui tacit consentire?
You? Leader? Actually I figured you were in charge of getting the other flame warriors coffee.
Obviously you didn’t catch the lighthearted nature of my villification.
Right, and all Munch was doing was 1. Correcting me on some silly forum/message board distinction 2. Erroneously claimed I only posted in the BBQ Pit and 3. Lauded my qualities as a troll.
Well, can’t complain there.
No, actually, since you wrote:
You pretty much called yourself a troll.
Maybe you are. Maybe you aren’t. Maybe you are alternating days. Maybe you have multiple personality disorder. Maybe this is another way to have fun at my expense to see what I will come up with (ie, trolling).
At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if you didn’t even know.
If I may ask, Myerku, just why did you come here to begin with?
It seems that I’m in a simliar boat as Hamlet. Taking his lead, here is my first post to him. Nothing of consequence, right? Then our exchange in the Tool thread.
First post: intended to be facetious, as is my tendency on the SDMB. Notice how Rev. ignored pun and came after me.
Second post: still facetious. Compares Rev’s overreaction to that of Suspenderzzzz, who has been banned. Result - Rev accuses me of calling him a sock.
Third post: more of the same. Result - “I know you are but what am I?”
Fourth post, a reply to Grendel: lost a bit of composure there.
Fifth post: composure regained. Attempt to explain to Rev. how the SDMB works. Result - no response.
Sixth post, a response to kabbes: still trying to be helpful. Result - Rev escelates his sanctamonious bullshit, the gist of which can be see in his response to Munch above.
Seventh post: I decide I’ve had enough of Rev and take a break from posting there. Result - Rev., who had been the only one insisting that his site could not possibly be his, announces that he’s posted the same bullshit over there.
Eighth post, a response to Diane: again I try to be helpful. Result - again, I’m ignored.
Ninth post: back to being facetious, big time. Result - ignored.
Tenth post, another response to kabbes: partly trying to help, partly trying to figure out what the hell is going on with Rev., partly just posting to see what he would come up with next. Result - more of his bullshit.
Eleventh post: bullshitting right back at him.
The rest of my posts in that thread are serious for the most part.
Now we have this thread. Except for one post suggesting Rev. may have banned himself, I’ve been trying to be helpful. Result - he’s gone back to ignoring me.
There you have it, I admit that I made two posts which might be considered as trolling. Rev. exhibits a tendency to attack without provocation and ignores those who try to help. He called me a troll yet he’s the one under a microscope. Am I the only one that sees something wrong here?
On preview: I see he has responded, though only to my explanations. At least it’s not an attack, I sincerely hope that’s a trend.