Look, 90% of those polled have no fucking idea who he is and how crazy he is. They just see “KENNEDY”. They hate trump, life is not perfect and that is the incumbent presidents fault, so who else is there? Oh, a “KENNEDY”.
He will disappear like a drop of water on a hot frying pan.
But elections are so close these days it is the spoiler effect at work here. Which side will he take more votes from? It does not need to be much to change the outcome.
Also, as with Nader, RFK Jr. need only have an effect in a very limited number of states to affect the nationwide outcome. If he has only 2% of the nationwide vote, which seems to me a lot, that means he’s going to range from less than 0.5% in some states to 5% in others, and if it’s at all disproportionate between both parties, that could present a problem in a few battleground states.
He’s a total whackjob, and a terrible public speaker, so I think he’s going to hurt Trump more overall,
Agree 100% with your first paragraph. That’s what these polls mean now. Name recognition matters, and “KENNEDY” is a celebrity name.
Not so sure about your second. The “pox on both houses” attitude is strong out in Low-InformationLand, regardless of how well-founded it is or isn’t.
So IMO this is what will end up happening if he ends up on all 50 ballots, and will probably still happen if he ends up on ballots only in the few swing states:
Suppose Cornel West and Kennedy are both on the ballot. Then the Democrats (and Independents who tend to vote Democratic), who can’t stand Biden, will mostly vote West. So there won’t be as many disaffected Democrats for Kennedy to pick up, and he will almost surely hurt Trump.
What if West doesn’t make it onto a state’s ballot, and Kennedy does? Then the certainty, as to how Kennedy would affect the race, declines.
Aaron Blake in the Washington Post provided some numbers on RFK. Not on who is going to vote for whom, but on personal likes and dislikes. (Obligatory disclaimer: early polls mean little.)
The latest polling from Quinnipiac University shows that Republicans like Kennedy by a 30-point margin, 48 percent favorable to 18 percent unfavorable.
Democrats, meanwhile, have developed an overwhelming distaste. The Quinnipiac poll shows just 14 percent have a favorable opinion of him, compared with 57 percent who have an unfavorable one.
Democrats never particularly liked Kennedy, despite what you might have been led to believe. But he’s gone from 14 points underwater (more unfavorable than favorable) with them in mid-June, to 23 points underwater in late June, to 26 points in July, to 31 points in August, and now to 43 points underwater.
Trends are somewhat more reliable than individual polls, so this shows why there are so many articles about Republicans hating on Kennedy lately. And Realclearpolitics compilation of favorability polls shows a distinct downward trend for him in the past few months.
Any normal politician would get the message from this. Kennedy is not normal: at best he’s a True Believer type, just like Cornel West. This type stays in as long as the money holds out.
What this tells me: Republicans like disloyal Democrats more than Democrats like disloyal Republicans.
However, if a Republican wants to vote for a conspiracy minded candidate, they can vote for their party’s nominee, and will. Democrats like that will have more reason to go third party. So I don’t think the above quoted polling numbers tell us much about how voters will vote, even if the poll had been conducted next October.
Am I then thinking that Kennedy will help Trump? Not really. Without knowing the whole Kennedy ticket, and what other third party candidates are on the ballot, it’s purest guesswork. Kennedy/Lindell is certainly a dream ticket from a Democratic POV. And too good to be true!
Most politically active black folk will have heard of him. And I suspect he is recognizable to a reasonable number of white liberals. He came to speak at my grad school, but I was aware of him before then through TV appearance.
Eh, Sanders ran as a Democrat without ever being a member of the party. It just matters if Kennedy and the Libertarians think there is more to gain than lose, really. Strict orthodoxy usually takes a backseat to expedience in politics.