Rick and Morty -- the new animated show from Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland

Pretty good S4E1! Loved all the different kinds of alternative Ricks being awakened. Great to see Mr. Meeseeks again (his instant change of expression when Rick sicced him on *Sturmbannfuhrer *Morty was maybe the best moment of the show). Very funny to have Morty, guided by the death crystal, tentatively making his way through the world in such a way that he would die in Jessica’s presence (and then the post-credits reveal was perfect).

The CMN chyron clearly referred to Morty as “Akira Boy.”

Best lines:

“Honey, stop raising your father’s cholesterol so you can take a hot funeral selfie.”
“You *are *down with fascist dystopias, right?”
“Hey hey, ho ho! Not cloning your grandpa has got to go!”
“Stop asking questions, stop doing meta-commentary and just have fun!”
“Kill this Nazi prick!”
“There’s a lesson here and… I’m not the one that’s gonna figure it out.”
“What, cover me in gasoline and spiders? Fine, yeah, I’m in.”

When did this become the default?

For a show that uses as much improv and ad-libbing as Rick and Morty, it’s not that much of a difference.

That was a nice little animated salute to him at the end of the episode.

I read nothing about this episode and went in blind.

Loved it, great episode. I really think it was a great standard adventure episode of the show.

Loved the Kirkland Meeseeks.

Are you meta trolling me or something? It’s a huge difference because they are still done after the fact and not live.

No, I’m not trolling you, I just don’t buy “It was in the subtitles,” as reliable evidence for what a particular line of dialogue might be. Subtitles are quite frequently wrong, even when dealing with scripted performances. This is exacerbated by the fact that, in this particular instance, a lot of the dialogue is improvised or ad-libbed, meaning that the lines aren’t actually written down anywhere. So if the person writing the subtitles is working from the script, the script isn’t going to match the dialogue in the show.

Was that a jab at Costco?

I’ve never been to Costco, I am aware that Kirkland is their store-brand. It’s a general joke about knock-off store-brands not being as good.

The distinction is between a person live-transcribing on the fly vs transcribing from a pre-provided transcript or from a recording. CC for a sitcom is going to be much more accurate than any live event.

To that end, ad-libbing doesn’t factor in whatsoever to the closed captioning for a recorded program. They aren’t ad-libbing it when it airs, and the CC isn’t done live as it airs.

Let’s just re-evaluate the fact that this debate is that we believe our eyes over your ears and your defense is that what we heard and read are both wrong because one time you saw someone mistype something during a live debate. You’re stretching pretty far. It’s already established it was an Akira joke, with various call-backs.

At any rate, are any of the shows available streaming yet, to rewatch?

Andyet, stillwildlyinaccurate.

Sorry, I just assumed that the sorry state of closed captioning in general was better known. If I’d expected this much pushback on the subject, I’d not have been so flippant in my first response.

“No matter how you pronounce ‘La Croix,’ you sound stupid”.

Gotta re-watch for more goodies.

In particular, I want to see all the various ways the crystal showed Morty dying.

So you are saying that because sometimes CC is wrong, we should never trust it? It’s always going to be wrong?

Again, you’re saying that’s more plausible than perhaps you simply misheard something.

This is an odd hill to die on. Especially for a mod.

We watched it on demand last night and immediately rewatched it.

I keep waiting for someone to grab those little clips and flip them around and play them back to back so we can see what they came up with.

where is it streaming?

No, I’m just saying that closed caption isn’t reliable. That’s all I’m saying. If I’d realized that this would be such a sensitive issue for some people, I wouldn’t have bothered bringing it up at all.

I don’t think it’s sensitive, at all, you were just called out on the fact that you tried to say the fact that some of the dialog for the show was ad-libbed somecrazyhow factored into how EVEN MORE unreliable the CC would be–suggesting that the show was ad-libbed live on the air, and transcribed from that live airing. Which is preposterous. And you can’t do anything else at this point but double down on that preposterous stance.

And again, all of this is in defense of the impossibility that perhaps you misheard something.

Do you think, like…maybe…you misheard the line? Maybe the CC wasn’t totally wrong? Maybe you just didn’t hear it correctly?

Pretty much the only thing in this post that I actually said was that a lot of the show is ad-libbed. No idea where you’re bringing that other stuff in from.