Rick Perry Indicted

Grestarian, your reasoning is backwards.

The Texas governor has a right to make line-item vetoes. That right is granted by the Texas Constitution without encumbrance. A Texas statute cannot impinge on the governor’s constitutional powers.

The Texas governor also has a right to explain the basis for his actions. That right is implicit in the executive’s enumerated powers, but it also is independently granted by, among other things, the US Constitution (as incorporated to the States). Perry’s explanation for his line-item veto is core political speech, the very heartland of public discourse. Of course, even aside from the constitutional protections, encouraging such speech also is sound public policy: We want to know why public officials act the way that they do, so that those actions can have the appropriate political consequences. And we especially want public officials to operate as checks and balances on each other.

Now, I agree that the Texas statute could be read to cover the PIU situation. But that reading can occur only in a vacuum, in particular only by ignoring the constitutional protections that accrue to each action of the governor. Perhaps there is authority that says that a series of actions, each not just legal but constitutionally protected, can amount to a criminal act. I haven’t looked for such precedent, but put me down as skeptical that it exists.

The prosecution’s reading makes a hash of the American constitutional/political system. Suppose that rather than a line-item veto, the situation were an appropriations bill, in which a majority of both houses of the legislature “threatened” to pass, and the governor threatened to sign, the “Defund PIU Unless the Mean Drunk Resigns Act,” which lines out all appropriations for PIU unless a particular individual resigns. In the constitutional vacuum that the prosecution hypothesizes, that legislative threat would amount to “coercion” by each member who publicly stated an intention to vote for the act, and the actual legislative votes would be separately criminalized as “misuse” of public property.

Or, take it a step further, and hypothesize that the legislature and governor campaigned on the “Defund PIU Unless the Mean Drunk Resigns Act.” Voting for a legislator, or the governor, in order the get the act passed could subject a voter to liability for aiding and abetting a criminal conspiracy!

Let’s take one final scenario. Under the prosecution’s theory, criminal liability attaches to explaining a constitutionally-protected action before it is undertaken, but there is no liability for explaining it after the fact (because there is no “coercion”). This creates the absurd scenario in which Perry saying, “this is why I am going to do what I’m going to do” is illegal, but saying “this is why I did what I did” is not. The motives are the same, the actions are the same, the consequence is the same - but transparency is undermined and the political process weakened, because no political pressure can be brought to bear before the action is performed.

Simon Maloy: Left’s defense of Perry illustrates the “Hack Gap.”

The author of the piece is trolling for clicks from folks who are trying to find some justification for the indictment. The reference to other Texas DA DUIs is notably fatuous. In the Texas system, the Travis County DA has unique responsibility for state funds and, consequently, sits in a very different chair than any other DA. And this particular Travis County DA used her authority to threaten others in a way that was antithetical to overseeing a public corruption unit.

It could just be illustrative of the fact that the indictment is really weak.

The writer explains these points:

[ul]
[li]Partisan Democrats Are Not Leading the Perry Prosecution[/li]
[li]It’s Not About Rosemary Lehmberg’s Disgraceful Behavior… Or Even Perry’s Veto[/li]
[li]There is a Lot We Don’t Know…Yet[/li][/ul]

From The Texas Observer

When even NYT Editorial Board calls it “overzealous prosecution”… If you’re a Democrat, should make you stop and wonder.

That author is the head of the Progress Texas PAC, and so he may be aiming a bit more at a political case than a legal analysis. :stuck_out_tongue:

This just isn’t accurate on the part of the article; Count I of the indictment contends that the veto was a criminal act.

Ordinarily, this would be true, but in this case we know now what the prosecution’s legal theory is, and it’s not going to change. Either it’s legally valid to argue that the veto and the threat to use it are criminal acts within the meaning of the statute or not, and that will probably get challenged in court well before trial. The author suggests that there is more to be learned about Perry’s motives, but Perry’s motives are not an element of either count of the indictment.

Maloy isn’t claiming that the indictment isn’t weak; he’s pointing out that left-wing punditry has a shortage of partisan hacks who are willing to ignore the indictment’s alleged weaknesses just to score points against the GOP.

It doesn’t even make sense that this would be a Democratic move for the 2016 campaign. Perry has no credibility against any plausible Dem opponent, and not that much against the Republican field. Left alone, he’d collapse on himself, but if he gets to play the martyr card, he automatically gets some sympathy vote - and maybe this laughable lightweight gets their nomination.

Oh, wait …

Wouldn’t such an act be a bill of attainder?

The point is that there are lefties willing to say that; there would be no righties willing to say it if positions were reversed.

Interesting question. I think not, because the issue is the prospective funding of a particular office.

I pray that President Obama calls a news conference to denounce the indictment. The right wing pundits’ heads will be spinning so fast they will unscrew themselves.

The hell he is! He’s from Haskell Co.

A governor was trying to influence county politics by demanding Lemberg’s resignation from her post as Travis County DA. Which is pretty ironic coming from a man who jumps up and down and stomps his little feet about the federal government interfering with state politics.

Don’t worry, Ricky; Tom DeLay’s on your side…
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/19/former-house-leader-delay-says-texas-county-indictment-on-perry-like-his/

who needs enemies?

I’m not from Texas and have gotten a lot of good information from reading the Texas Observer’s reporting of this. I don’t know who they are, but I’m impressed by them in general.

But I’m not impressed by this piece.

I would paraphrase as:

  • Don’t ask me to defend the indictment on its face; I can’t.
  • Don’t ask me to defend the Mean Drunk DA; no one can.
  • But the DA in charge of the indictment seems good and neutral, and there might be more later!

Naw, they’ll be crowing with joy. “See, even the Muslim Socialist can’t defend this piece of crap!”

And violate the Prime Directive: Oppose anything that Obama says? I don’t think it will be an easy call.

Is that the official position of the Democrat party or is that your very own personal opinion?

No such party exists in the U.S.

Your question in therefore incomprehensible