Roast in hell, Swell Season suicide jumper!

You’d prefer I charged for it?

So now that it is established that you are not misunderstood and that you are not being picked on, you should quit your bitching.

If you don’t think I’m misunderstood and picked on, then your question was senseless.

I don’t. My iPhone has an app for that.

Let’s make a distinction between “is spectacularly unlikely to survive that jump” and “is spectacularly unlikely to die as the result of that jump”, rather than the extremes of “you’d always die” or “that wouldn’t ever kill anybody”.

When I was 14 we had a split-level house. I had jumped off the main roof several times but for some reason got it into my head to contemplate jumping from the top of the split-level portion. The ground below was dirt and grass, sloping away from the house. Looked somewhat like this. My Dad is 6’4" and his own Dad was 6’6" and didn’t have to duck to get in the front door. I’m guessing the roofline on the right in that pic is nearly 3 times the height of the front door, does it look like that to you? So, not terribly far from 20 feet, right, give or take a foot? I jumped, landed on both feet & kept my balance w/o having to let my hands touch the ground, stood up, walked back to the backporch rail, hoisted myself up, did it again… never so much as knocked the wind out of me, didn’t twist my ankle, perhaps one time I went all the way down to hands and knees.

Sure, it could kill you, but reliably, as in “this is a way by which you could commit suicide”?

‘Traumatized’ does not necessarily mean permanently affected to the point of PTSD either though. Merriam-Webster says trauma is:

a : an injury (as a wound) to living tissue caused by an extrinsic agent
b : a disordered psychic or behavioral state resulting from severe mental or emotional stress or physical injury
c : an emotional upset

So it doesn’t always have to be as extreme as you are claiming it must be. I would say seeing someone fall to their death would count as ‘an emotional upset’ for many people. Traumatized may once have only referred to the aftereffects of extreme personal stress, but language evolves, and use of the expression to mean shaken up or upset is pretty commonplace at this point.

If people use it that way, they’re cheapening the word.

Language is not static, it changes over time. The meanings and underlying connotations of words evolve. You may not like it or use it, but the less extreme meaning of the word traumatized is right there in the dictionary.

No, it means that you do not understand the various normal meanings of the word, and are presenting your limited opinion as the authority, which of course is crap.

Originally Posted by Lewis Carroll
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less.”

“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”

“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master – that’s all.”

Last year, we were renting a house just a few miles away, and we probably would have been there had we not moved, as we love the band. It really is a bit of a utopian venue, and very intimate with not a ‘bad seat’ in the house.

It is really awful all around.

Sigh.

Uh huh, whatever you say.

No. I understand the word perfectly well. The fact that it has been cheapened by misuse does not alter its real meaning which is injury, physical or psychic. Not just being upset about something.

You don’t think completely avoiding a (no doubt profitable and pleasant-to-play) music venue forever more counts as psychic injury?

And we may not all be as cold as Mr I-saw-his-brains-dashed-out-on-the-rocks-and-I-felt-Nothing-!-you-hear-me-?-Nothing-! - I’ve had strangers suicide right in front of me and would certainly describe the effects as traumatic. And so would my shrink. Hell, I won’t drive on a certain road any more because it’s where I saw that body hanging in the tree.

Liesbeek Parkway near Hartleyvale, a couple of years ago? I have the same reaction - there’s a couple of times I’ve simply had to drive along there, and it creeps me out no end.

"The fact that . . . "
Nope. That is not a fact. That is your personal opinion, which differs from standard dictionary definitions. Fact. Opinion. Fact. Opinion. Learn the difference, Dio. And while you are at it, learn the meanings of the term trauma.

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I didn’t say I felt nothing, I said I felt bummed out. I just wasn’t traumatized which is not the same thing. I’d already been through real trauma. I know the difference.

I’m starting to get a little traumatized every time a thread turns into the Diogenes Show. :frowning: