Rock 'n' Roller's - how do they make money?

Most musicians do two things:

  1. Sell CD’s
  2. Tour

Where does the bulk of their income come from? Is selling CD’s the breadwinner or is going on tour? It would seem that everytime the media mentions a tour, they say “Radiohead is touring to promote their new CD”.

from touring. Most bands make their money the way bands always have- rocking it out live.

It’s only been recently that huge mega bands have made serious amounts of money from records sold. Hence Metallica hates napster now, but most others don’t care. Lower record sales don’t impact them all that much, and free internet music primes the fanbase for touring just as well as sold records do.

Ker-PITCH! Take that, SPOOFE

jb

Just want to add that the songwriter of the band makes good money in royalties if the music is a “hit”.

You can make money off record sales if it’s negotiated into your contract. Unfortunately, most artists don’t have the kind of leverage (past successes) needed to get it.

I remember Brian May (guitarist for Queen) talking about this once. He made the point that they never made any money while on tour due to the expenses involved. Instead, they had their record deal structured so as to make that their chief source of income. Royalties, too, from publishing rights are significant income producers. As the band members were once listed in the Guiness Book of World Records as the highest paid corporate officers in the world, I’d say he knew what he was talking about.

I believe they make more of royalties from airplay on the radio than on record sales.

From their day job.
ba da bump

Well, keeping the band together and not changing the name a hundred times is a good place to start.

They have to have good songs. No way around this.

The amount of money they make selling CDs really depends. Touring puts food in their mouths.

They can make money on royalties once everything else is payed off. They have to sell a lot of CDs, though, to pay that stuff off.

Here’s a somewhat tongue-in-cheek breakdown from a particular scenario given by Steve Albini (produced Nirvana, NIN, Pixies). Income is underlined.

the article is at: http://www.atlantic-satellite.com/major_la.htm

   Advance: $  250,000
   ^^^^^^^                                    ^^^^^^^
  Manager's cut: $   37,500
  Legal fees: $   10,000
  Recording Budget: $  150,000
  Producer s advance: $   50,000
  Studio fee: $   52,500
  Drum. Amp, Mic and Phase "Doctors": $    3,000
  Recording tape: $    8,000
  Equipment rental: $    5,000
  Cartage and Transportation: $    5,000
  Lodgings while in studio: $   10,000
  Catering: $    3,000
  Mastering: $   10,000
  Tape copies, reference CDs, shipping
                  tapes, misc. expenses: $    2,000
  Video budget: $   30,000
  Cameras: $    8,000
  Crew: $    5,000
  Processing and transfers: $    3,000
  Off-line: $    2,000
  On-line editing: $    3,000
  Catering: $    1,000
  Stage and construction: $    3,000
  Copies, couriers, transportation: $    2,000
  Director's fee: $    3,000
 Album Artwork: $    5,000
 Promotional photo shoot and
                         duplication: $    2,000
 Band fund: $   15,000
 New fancy professional drum kit: $    5,000
 New fancy professional guitars [2]: $    3,000
 New fancy professional guitar amp
                         rigs [2]: $    4,000
 New fancy potato-shaped bass guitar: $    1,000
 New fancy rack of lights bass amp: $    1,000
 Rehearsal space rental: $      500
 Big blowout party for their friends: $      500
 Tour expense [5 weeks]: $   50,875
 Bus: $   25,000
 Crew [3]: $    7,500
 Food and per diems: $    7,875
 Fuel: $    3,000
 Consumable supplies: $    3,500
 Wardrobe: $    1,000
 Promotion: $    3,000
 Tour gross income: $   50,000
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                           ^^^^^^
  Agent's cut: $    7,500
  Manager's cut: $    7,500
 Merchandising advance: $   20,000
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                       ^^^^^^
 Manager's cut: $    3,000
 Lawyer's fee: $    1,000
 Publishing advance: $   20,000
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                          ^^^^^^
 Manager's cut: $    3,000
 Lawyer's fee: $    1,000

Record sales: 250,000 @ $12     =     $3,000,000
 Gross retail revenue Royalty
   [13% of 90% of retail]: $  351,000
 Less advance: $  250,000
 Producer's points
         [3% less $50,000 advance]: $   40,000
 Promotional budget: $   25,000
 Recoupable buyout from previous label: $   50,000

 Net royalty: $  -14,000
  ^^^^^^^^^^^                                 ^^^^^^
         Record company income:

  Record wholesale price
          $6.50 x 250,000 =               $1,625,000                gross income
  Artist Royalties: $  351,000
  Deficit from royalties: $   14,000
   Manufacturing, packaging and
  distribution @ $2.20 per record: $  550,000
  Gross profit: $  7l0,000
The Balance Sheet: This is how much each player
got paid at the end of the game.

 Record company: $  710,000
 Producer: $   90,000
 Manager: $   51,000
 Studio: $   52,500
 Previous label: $   50,000
 Agent: $    7,500
 Lawyer: $   12,000
 Band member net income each: $    4,031.25

A proven money-maker can fiddle with the structure of their contract. Bands just getting started have a really tough road ahead of them. Alot of them break up over the first couple of recordings.

Never mind all that. How do they get their chicks for free?