Thanks.
But you haven’t ceased.
Did you forget your promise, or were you lying?
I’ve never heard about this posting in the “title line” being an issue until I came to this forum. **** In any case, I will cease doing this since it seems to be a serious issue for some.
I thought the criticism referred to my replies within the body of a thread. That is to say I thought people were objecting to my use of the Title bar that is available at the top of every potential reply. Thus, I have stopped using this when I type a reply. I see now that you are referring to the primary questions themselves. This is how I have always asked questions when online. When did this format become objectionable and why? I didn’t see anything having to do with this in the posting guidelines (however I could have missed it). Often my questions take several sentences to properly structure (in my mind).
Also the Barbecued Baked Lays question seemed obvious to me. However, perhaps I should have been more explicit as to what the specific questions were. The possible questions that emanated from that thread included:
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Did the forumula for Barbecue Baked Lays really change or was it just my impression. There had to be others who noticed when this occured.
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If it did change why would a company in my opinion ruin what was an awesome product (or at least greatly diminish). If this occured there is probably an interesting “behind the scenes” story that occured with the decision to switch to the KC Masterpiece variety (such as a lot of money being offered). Somebody out there probably has the “answer” that I am seeking, unfortunately the question was closed since some didn’t see the implied questions (which I felt were obvious).
Look, I have asked questions, or proposed scenarios that I sincerely find to be fascinating. Maybe that defines me as “stupid”. However, even if it does I would submit that you are rude in defining me in that manner. If you find my someones questions to be inane, or offensive simply don’t respond, no need for insults. I will try to be more succinct in my thread titles simply to accomodate the preferences that some of you seem to have.
Also, there have been several recent instances where somone replied to a question that I asked with a rude, or otherwise non-responsive answer. Such behavior would be a prima facia basis for removal (or at least formal warning) on every other board that I’ve visited including All Nurses (they define the behavior as “stalking”, I would simply call it being rude). Again, if you think my perspective is wrong then explain why (or skip the question entirely if it doesn’t excite your interest), but keep the denigrating remarks to yourself. At least that is how I see things.
Also here are a few examples of others who have asked questions in their thread title. Where is the “Pit” thread objecting to their behavior? I will concede that many of these are more succinct than my titles, but that was not the basis for your criticisms (which was actually asking the question in the title if I understood correctly).
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The OP is not the major issue here. Minor issue, yes, please see below.
That is correct. It plays hell with quoting you in a reply. Please see below.
Have not. I’ve seen the recent replies where you have not. You didn’t in this post; please continue.
Please compress your OP (and, if you wish to use the title bar in a followup post, your followup posts) to a thesis. This thesis may then be put in the title bar as a question (or, well, title). The text of your OP (or followup post) may then contain your several sentences (which is actually a good thing) which properly structure your question (or reply).
Not all that fucking obvious, obviously. If you had put these questions in your OP, I doubt it would have been closed.
Different folks, different strokes. The SDMB as a whole is not going to accomodate itself to you. If you really find it interesting, find us interesting, then you need to act just the same as in any other social situation you find interesting, and accomodate yourself to the local standards. It’s that simple.
It is ok to have a complete question be the title of you General Questions thread. What is driving everyone nuts about your threads is the way half the question is in the title, and the other half is in the post. Even with mouseover, it makes them hard to read.
What would happen if I started posting…
…like this? Would it be hard to read and annoying?
Nice triple post. If you had your own board you could have all the posts!
Remind me to never piss you off. That was a dress-down worthy of a salty Quantico DS. Quite witty as well.
Roland, the problem is not so much the technical issue of the title line, but more of an attitiude.
Although the sticky on the front page of GQ has this:
Bolding mine. Just take the extra minute to compose a title that will concisely tell people what your question is, and don’t make us hover over the thread (a very recent addition, BTW) to find out what the “rest of the story” is.
The bigger problem (IMO), is your reaction to the criticism you’ve faced. Yes, the SDMB has gone to paid subscriptions, but guess what…everyone who has been answering your questions has paid the same $4.95 you did. (Or not, but I know most of them have). The people on these boards are not a paid answering service, available at your beck and call to definitively answer whatever random thought pops into your head. They are people just like you, with lives and other commitments who answer questions in order to fight ignorance. This is done on their own time, and often with considerable effort. They (and I) do this because they feel a sense of community around here.
When someone new shows up and begins bombarding the board with questions, expect what you have gotten: a basic “calm it down”, and “this is the way things are done around here”. The worst thing you can do in this situation is say “Well, at Board X I do this and nobody says anything.”
The SDMB is NOT “Board X”. It is the SDMB. No avatars, no editing, and you are judged solely by the content of your posts.
Your OP about Barbecue Potato Chips is the perfect example. A good OP would have been “Did Lay’s change the BBQ Chip formula?”, then go into the details of your question in the body of the text. The actual question was never asked in your OP, and your second question from your elaboration belongs in IMHO.
This is a great community…where else are you going to get actual doctors, engineers, lawyers, pilots, cops, programmers or teachers to answer your question? But you can’t expect to jump in, blast the boards while ignoring the conventions and expect to get a great response.
Either you’ll like it here or you won’t…it’s really your decision now.
Sorry about the triple post that’s why I wish I had an edit key. In fact, back at www.allnurses.com (where I post as Roland) it is not uncommon for me to edit a post weeks or in a few cases months later when I think of something relevent to add.
Also, carefully check the time and dates of any posts where I typed within the Title bar in the reply to threads. I say that because since reading this Pit thread (which I was not aware of until it had many, many posts) I have made efforts to avoid doing this. Also, are you saying that the practice is against actual website rules or that it just happens to be annoying? Furthermore, when I have posted incomplete questions using a “…” at the end of the title, the question theme is almost always obvious. Thus, you should be able to get an idea from what appears in the title as to whether or not you wish to read the rest of the query.
I will continue posit questions that I find to be fascinating, and in a manner consistent with site guidelines to the best of my ability. I believe that the merit (or lack there of) of a question or scenario stands or falls upon its own weight. It doesn’t matter if Stephen Hawkings or Charles Manson advances a question or idea. The idea is what is of primary importance. Furthermore, questions often display emergent properties from the standpoint of information which they generate. Thus, in the case of the question about extradition for crimes, someone offered a list of foreign countries and their specific status vis a vis the United States on this issue. Even if I should die tommorow (or fade into the night as a banned former member) the infomation generated from the discussion stands to benefit future researchers. Not unlike the work of long dead authors who’s work serves to either instruct (or in some cases torture) future readers.
Frankly, I hardly care if my own wife likes what I say or how I say it so don’t be surprised if I’m not overcome by emotions with regard to your opinion on the issue.
Noone is objecting to the examples you give because the OPs in those cases put full sentences in there. The way that you post…
…splits sentences up, like this, so they’re difficult to read.
Also, you’ve started many threads, nearly all of which have the same irritating problem. Just take the advice, relax, and you won’t get flamed anymore.
Your post was placed while I was composing my previous reply. In responce I would say the following:
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I do try and communicate the theme and nature of my posts in the title line. As I have pointed out above I will make an effort to be more succinct.
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No one is forced to read or respond to anything that I (or anyone else for that matter writes). Thus, if someone finds a question to be inane, simply don’t respond. The fact that someone does respond implies at least tacit admission that they find something worthy of a reply. All I do is offer the opportunity to answer questions that I find to be really interesting (and in some cases have ruminated on for years).
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The Baked Lays question is a serious question at least for me. Granted, “the change” occured at least four or five years ago (within six months of their baked chips being introduced) so it could be more timely. However, as I indicated I did email and phone the company seeking a factual answer. What really bugged me was that I couldn’t even get them to admit that an objective change had occured (other than that KC Masterpiece was now in the name). Pehaps, I am wrong and nothing did change. I consider this to be a “hard” question which has at least in part a factual answer. In fact, if I was “Oprah” wealthy (or even much less so) I would probably spend several tens of thousands seeking an answer to this very question in terms of professional research (which is just one of many reasons why I will never be that wealthy).
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Look, your post was polite and stated your case clearly without direct insults or obscenity. Why couldn’t this thread have opened with an attitude such as the one which you displayed rather than all of the insults and caustic remarks?
How sweet.
Also Astro, I think your post requires a reply:
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The “sex” issue is a big deal for me in my personal life. I’m glad that you find it to be amusing. It really irks me that I can’t just get a prescription for something like depro-provera and end most of the problem. Yes SSRI’s were suggested, and they might work. However, I not looking for something that has the side effect of giving me a “false sense of happiness” about the world. I like my dark moods to the extent that they exist finding them to be illustrative of the world’s true nature.
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I support your right to not be a big Second Amendment supporter. However, understand that some of us believe that owning, and carrying firearms is a basic fundamental right (anywhere between 25 and 40% of Americans depending upon which pole you go with). In Indiana, there are over a million people with concealed firearm permits, and I will put our per capita crime rate up against yours any day. Of course there are other confabulating factors, but I believe that John Lott was not far off base with his thesis in More Guns Less Crime. It’s not that I “feel the need” to carry a gun. Instead, I consider it to be an obligation that I have to practice, fundamental liberties lest they become lost (not unlike voting).
Thanks, dnoorman for such a profound contribution to the discussion. I might instead reply: “how responsive”
Can we just end all of this by declaring Roland to be batshit fucking crazy and pretending like he doesn’t exist?
I guess we’ve solved the mystery of why you’re not getting any…
[Prison Guard]
“Now what we have here, is failyah to communicate…”
[/Prison Guard]
Yes. Please.
Well Otto it’s clear that you are a scholar and a gentlemen yourself. I haven’t seen such civility since watching the Clarence Thomas comfirmation hearings years ago. In any case Otto no less sage a wit than Billy Joel once declaired “you may be right, I may be crazy, but it just may be a lunatic your looking for”. Well, maybe not you, but some people out there might find some of my questions to have merit.
Also don’t forget what Jules Verne had to say on the subject: “Was I to believe him in earnest in his intention to penetrate to the centre of this massive globe? Had I been listening to the mad speculations of a lunatic, or to the scientific conclusions of a lofty genius? Where did truth stop? Where did error begin?”
Or my personal favorite:
James Bond: “Mr. Carver you are positively insane.”
Carver: "Mr. Bond, The fine line between insanity and genius is only measured by success! "
Then again maybe characterization of me explains why my wife often hums the theme song from “Pinky and The Brain” whenever I explain to her my latest masterplan for obtaining our dreams.
Roland - it doesn’t matter how many “genius vs. insanity” quotes you can pull out of your ass. No-one here, and I mean no-one, is gonna think your a genius for posting nonsensical ramblings about the falvour of crisps. It just doesn’t work like that.
And one final thing - STOP WITH THE FUCKING “ALL NURSES” MESSSAGE-BOARD SHITE!
You have mentioned it once - we get it. You’re training to be a nurse - we’re all proud of you. Shut the fuck up about that stupid-ass message board. Working yourself into a veritable mastubatory frenzy of self-congratulation about managing to post under the name “Roland” is just wrong.
Phew… let’s hope we’re done here.
Aw dude, we know you post at allnurses. You’ve mentioned it in this thread, in other threads, sometimes multiple times in the same dang thread. It’s starting to feel a bit like a shill. In any event, what you do there, or at http://www.dammitmybarbequedlaysdonttasteasgoodastheyusedto.com, matters not a whit over here at the Dope. Put it out of your mind. It is as nought to us.
:eek: Wow. And you say this woman won’t have sex with you? Inconceivable!!!
If that’s your only objection to not using an SSRI, then it’s time to crack open the Zoloft bottle. SSRIs aren’t uppers, and don’t give you a “false sense of happiness.” Basically, SSRIs are intended to help fix the brain chemical imbalance found in many patients suffering with unipolar depression. Depressed folks often have a deficiency in levels of a certain neurotransmitter (serotonin, which is the second “S” in SSRI). If the SSRI is effective, the correct levels of the serotonin are maintained, and the patient will simply be able to feel normal mood dynamics – the lows, the highs, and the mehs. (Depressed people usually feel super-low or meh, with perhaps a few semi-highs thrown in there just to taunt us.)
But this doesn’t mean that healthy, nondepressed people will suddenly become ensconced in a haze of bliss by taking Paxil, Prozac or Zoloft (among the most famous of the several SSRIs out there). In fact, I strongly doubt s/he’d feel much change of mood at all, although IANADoc so don’t quote me.
(Not that I’m advocating medication for your sex issue. I’m still not getting why you just can’t whack off when your wife isn’t around. How will she know?)
On the other hand (er … pardon the pun), SSRIs do have beneficial effects on people with obsessive compulsive disorders. So maybe it’ll help diffuse your potato chip mania. 