Roland Deschain, I have some choice words for you.

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Jesus, **Hunter Hawk ** was right!

Okay, Roland, waaayyy TMI. You’re setting off peoples’ Hink-O-Meters for a reason, and this is just one more example. This place isn’t your therapist. I’m sure your various hang-ups and dramas are riveting but scale back what you dump in our laps. Dopers really don’t want to know all that much and those closest to you probably wouldn’t appreciate having their private matters dragged across a message board either.
Consider yourself warned, Roland.

TVeblen
Pit mod

[Edited to correct spelling from “Ronald”. Sheesh, gotta knock off the Scrabble.)

Next thread to be started by Roland: Why does everybody call me Ronald?

Warning: Possibly TMI!

Roland, a discussion of fecal matter on your penis and the resulting odor might possibly be amusing for you to discuss, but we’ve heard worse. So don’t get too smug just yet.

There are tender ears here, however. And the SDMB tradition is to put “Warning! Possible TMI” before posting those things which disgust even you. The TMI stands for “Too Much Information.”

I’ll bet you knew that.

I don’t believe a word you say anymore. And that smell was no fecal matter. It was your upper lip.

Sell your computer. Get help.

I was responding to this:

"You are a yahoo and your wife probably is too

But she wants desperately to get away from your controlling wack shit. Give it up and fuck a fellow backwards Christian in his ass-- you’ll both be shocked, yet pleasured in a whole new way! And then you discover your latent homo-ness and then kill each other, thereby leaving us with one less Bushista FuckWit— and relieving your wife from a life of misery, torture and Godliness.

Good luck, and Og bless, you backward fuck!!!"

and I am the one to get warned? Maybe I am nuts because someone just insulted an entire religion “backwards Christian” and then called me a latent homosexual not to mention a “FuckWit”. They used profanity in a direct personal attack (I’ve never even attacked someone on this board let alone used profanity to do so) and I get warned? As to talking about “buggering my wife” I was attempting to use euthanisms to try and make clear why I wouldn’t consider becoming a homosexual (which I believe to be a choice as I do all sex or allmost any other action for that matter). Come on folks I’ve read LONG posts on this board (in GQ no less) about the protein, vitamin content of semen (and how one might even cook the stuff like egg whites) for Gods sake without any warnings. Look, I give the personal information that I do in an attempt to clarify the context of the questions that I ask when I feel that it is necessary. It’s the way I write and think. If you are telling me that I am crossing some sort of obsenity line, then I will self edit using less offensive language, however I will not (and probably cannot) change my “style” of communication. If you want to ban me go ahead, but don’t claim to be any sort of bastion of free intellectual inquiry. I have used essentially the same approach in several college English papers that received A’s (even including details about the sexual relations mentioned above).

If you honestly can’t see that you’re sharing way waaaay too much personal information I hope for your wife’s sake you DO get banned.

How many braincells does it take to realise that responding with TMI information about fucking your wife in the ass to an insult is over the line? ESPECIALLY when you’ve said repeatedly that SHE DOESN’T LIKE IT.

Welcome to the Pit, where direct personal insults are just fine.

Trying to use what? And if you’re trying to use euphemisms… boyyyyyy howdy did you fail.

A simple “I’ve tried it, I don’t like the smell.” would’ve been okay, if a bit creepy. A “That’s not my bag baby!” might’ve been better, and even funny.

I don’t see how the Dope’s intellectualism would take a nose dive if one guy who doesn’t have a ‘tmi filter’ in his brain left. I mean, seriously dude. I’ve never reaaly seen your posts before but this stuff is just kinda… squiky. Just MHO of course.

What does that prove? College profs can be weird, and the tone in a private essay to a professor is not the same as one in a public message board.

Roland I think you know that you need help. This messageboard isn’t going to be able to suply that help, so go get the help you need from a professional psychiatrist. You’ve proven yourself to be intelligent, now use that intelligence to get yourself sorted out. (I took the steps towards getting myself sorted out fifteen years ago, its an ongoing struggle, but it is well worth the effort).

It bothers me to see people post way TMI stuff. I keep wondering how they’ll feel a few years from now when they realize it’s still up there, still searchable, still able to be used against them.

It bothers me 100 times more when it concerns someone who doesn’t consent to it being posted.

Wow. This is turning into quite the trainwreck.

Roland, I may be a guest, but I don’t think it takes a rocket surgeon to figure out that everyone on this board seems to think you should downshift into “gee, i really liked that sitcom last night” or the like. The “my wife swings and I have had a poopy dick” threads just don’t seem to be catching on… IMO of course.

BTW: who cares if some flames you down here for being conservative and living in the midwest. It’s not like it’s a surprise that someone will jump on that…

Although, I have to admit, as a very recent lurker, I love watching someone flame himself out and argue over nothing with the mods. (But I am definitely NOT going sit in any la[censor]chairs…)

I tell you what: I hope Deschain doesn’t ever get his nursing license. I don’t relish the idea of his having more-or-less free access to pharmaceuticals.

In reply to the above thoughts I say the following:

  1. So what is this whole thing about being “creepy” anyway? There are worse things in this life than being “creepy”. I would submit that I’m am first and foremost an* individualist * who says what’s on in mind in plane terms (while trying not to insult anyone personally). If there is one thing I dislike it is the “conventional wisdom” about various subjects. If there is any one “theme” that runs through my posts (which cover subjects as risque as sex to as mundane as door jamb protectors) it’s that I usually try to question the conventional wisdom and look at subjects from unusual perspectives (admittedly I often fail to consider certain issues that might have made my perspective different or even moot, but that is the intent anyway).

  2. I’ve noticed many other people post items that are no more “TMI” than that which I write. I’ve seen lurid sexual details presented without objection on numerous occassions without comment. I can’t help but feel that the standard for “TMI” has some correlation to how people feel about the particular perspective and poster. I was serious when I referenced my personal “Pol Pots, Stalin, Hitler, Idia Amin, Mother Teresa” doctrine in the post about swing clubs. I try to always respond to the question and not how I feel about the person posing it or even the perspective which they hold. I believe that this sort of emotional detachment is imperative if one hopes to have an environment in which all perspectives can be presented, discussed, and explored. For example, although I am rabidly “pro life” politically you will find a post where I attempted to explain the reason why a “soap sud” abortion was once considered safer than other approaches. I don’t believe that I even referenced my position on abortion in my reply rather I dealt with the OP to the best of my ability (which is admittedly very limited given my limited knowledge on the subject).

  3. One of the reasons that I started integrating pesonal information into my posts (not only here but elsewhere at places like www.allnurses.com and www.nationalmortgagenews.com) is because I found people often questioning my sincerity. It amazed me how often people would write something like “you must be putting us on” or “trolling”. In addition, I found people would respond with something like “why would you ask such a crazy question, you can’t be serious.” (note I’ve also experienced this nearly my entire life in school and elsewhere). I hoped that by my including the WHY behind my questions that I could reduce how often people questioned my sincerity. Now it’s seems to be something of a “catch 22”, in that if I provide context I am said to be including “TMI” and if I don’t people conclude that I’m not serious (admittedly many people don’t think I serious no matter how I present my perspectives). I honestly think that there are a certain # of people who are either miffed or perplexed when someone holds perspectives outside the “mainstream” or which defy so called “conventional wisdom”. I was raised by my parents to “question everything” and to always think for myself even if doing so made me unpopular.

  4. My point above was that I was personally attacked above in a thread involving obscenity, and apparently that was perfectly fine (the person even basically said it wouldn’t be a bad thing if I should die). However, my response which referenced anal sex was somehow “over the line”. I’ve read numerous discussions on this board that mentioned anal sex and its many variations without objection, however my post was somehow over the line even though it was relevent (even if you reject my argument) to the previous post (which also mentioned anal sex) .

I don’t even drink let alone use illegal drugs. In addition, I have a clean driving record, and am a member of the volunteer fire dept (including EMS/EMT services). Also, as a CNA/QMA (not to mention nursing student) I currently adminster drugs to clients. Also, I work as a home health aid to a family which has six “special needs” foster kids, and they consider me to be one of the best aids they’ve had in the last ten years (they even took my family out to dinner and bought my son Christmas presents in appreciation and because they new we were struggling with finances). I’ve never hit a woman, and haven’t been involved in a fight since I slugged Donny L. in the sixth grade in the restroom for calling my mother a slut (she was his first grade teacher). In addition, when I was in the Navy I had a “secret” security clearance and was trained in explosive ordinance disposal. Most of the people in my nursing class would say “yeah the guy looks kind of creepy, but he’s one of the nicest people they’ve ever met.” Indeed, even my wife has commented that I’m too nice (she used to call me a walking door mat) often putting the interests of others ahead of myself and my family (especially when we had a business together).

[hijack]I know you’re engaging in hyperbole here, but could you kinda chill on the use of “homo” as an insult? Anyway, anal sex, even between people of the same gender, doesn’t necessarily equate to homosexuality.

(I’m not objecting to the “a fellow backwards Christian in his ass” bit here, provided that “backwards” is the operative word; I’m objecting to the “homo=bad” implication.)[/hijack]

Pheeeww. (wipes forehead to signal relief)
:stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah so uhm I Love Me, Vol I comes in and wishes death upon our dear Roland and that doesn’t get a warning? I would much rather hear about shit dick than read death threats.

I grok creepy. Grokking is good.

Yeah, but it makes for an unpleasant message board experience ,for some at least.

Shit, piss, and vinegar. As a proponent of individualism myself I can tell you that the two central pillars are individual choice, and individual responsibility. Don’t try to get out of responsibility by claiming it’s an act of individualism.

IANAMod, but almost every time I’ve seen someone say something like this, a Mod has asked if the person reported the posts as objectionable. Mods can’t see everything after all. And, yes, that’s a part of message board culture. If a poster doesn’t like you, they’re probably more willing to repot you. But, by the same token, if you’re not guilty of anything, the Mods aint got nuthin’.

Totally off topic, but were you that nurse who was posting about wanting to know ways to kill someone without leaving a trace?

Naw, no catch 22. Chances are, you’ll always offend someone somehow. But it’s safer to err on the side of decorum and let people who don’t believe you go on not believing you, rather than bringing up that once your dick smelled like shit.

Yes, you are a misunderstood genius. You want to play John Galt here, or you shooting for Dagny’s role?

And that is why Dopers hate you, because, secretly, we all love the chains of mindless authority.

Nobody wished death on you (at least in my reading), a Mod might’ve felt differently than I, had you reported the issue rather than responding with… well…

This is the pit by the way, and, damnit, you’re being annoying.
Someone personally insulted you, stop whining about it or I’ll call you an asshole.

It didn’t refrence sex! It out and out wrote a book, went on the talk shows, and recorded a movie!

This is just hopeless.
Yes, most other discussion on anal sex are probably discussions on anal sex, or a theme within a thread at the very least. But in no way, shape, or form does talking about how your dick smells after anal sex relevant in this thread here.

Just because someone makes an off the cuff refrence to anal sex doesn’t mean that you then have carte blanche to discuss, well… you know what you did wrong, right?

No, Finn darlin’, he almost certainly has no fucking clue what he did wrong. This guy, he’s not so swift with reading the social cues. He either honestly doesn’t see any difference between a detailed discussion of his dick smelling like shit and saying, “Eh, you ought to go have anal sex,” or he’s willfully not seeing the difference. I’m not sure which it is, but I kind of lean toward the latter. It fits better with his whole spiel about being raised to disregard social mores, and then whining because people don’t treat him well when he ignores those mores.

Hey there CCL! ~sends random good vibes~

Me too. Either that or he’s very, very thin skinned and any insult on an anonymous message board must be met by overwhelming personal data. Either way it’s freakin’ weird.

That might be it… the more I think about it the more likely that seems actually.

I wasn’t drawing all too many conclusions from it and was reacting more on a visceral level. I still remember when I was a camp counselor and was rooming with a guy who would go to staff dances and flail about like he was having a ceisure. Because, well, “his parents told him to do whatever he wanted and he wasn’t going to comform.”

I’m all for individualism, but when I see it being used as cover for some whiney wimp, I get frustrated.


(Roland here’s a rough analogy)

  • “Hey, go fuck a horse!”
  • “I will have you know that I do not fuck horses. Rather, I have sex with my wife. But not often. Her vagina smells weird. And often her vaginal discharge has the consistency of… oh oh oh! And boy oh boy lemme tell you about what happens when I put my cock in her rectum! Whoa nelly! Speaking of which, lemme tell you what sex with Nelly is like…”

Great, Finn, now I’ve got Pepsi lodged in my sinuses. (I’m too stuffed up for it to come out of my nose. I don’t suppose you’re interested in a detailed analysis of my mucosal secretions for the past week and how having Pepsi lodged in a mucus plug feels so you can have adequate context, huh?)