The Academy don’t give Oscars for CGI. Is Serkis’s non-CGI performance in ROTK sufficient excuse for the Academy to give him Best Supporting Actor? His soliloquy in ROTK wasn’t quite the tour-de-force of The Two Towers, but it was pretty close.
I thought that this film proved he didn’t deserve it from TT. Not that his live action acting wasn’t adequate, but it was just that: good but not great.
When he was Gollum, however, he was spectacular. But I think as much of that was the CGI team as it was Selkis.
After the TT, it was said that more of the success of Gollum was Selkis’s as it was the CGI guys.
I think after seeing Selkis on his own, it is clear that while the character was INCREDIBLE without Selkis’s EXCELLENT voice work, enough of it is the work of the CGI team to take some luster off Selkis’s work.
I’d bet on Sean Astin for Best Supporting actor for this one. For the nominmation, at least.
“The Academy don’t give Oscars for CGI.”
I’ve heard this before. Is this a rule, or is it just something that hasn’t happened yet?
Sean Astin deserves the Oscar more. They’ll give the nomination to Ian McKellen, though.
I rate Astin/Samwise for Best Actor.
I started a thread on this last year after TTT came out. From what others posted, it seems it is within the rules that an actor can be nominated for Best Actor or Best Supporting Actor for doing the voice of an animated character. It just hasn’t ever happened. I haven’t seen ROTK yet, but I think that if Serkis didn’t get a nomination last year, he won’t get one now.
I remember the last thread, and I still don’t get why people think he gave an oscar worthy preformance in any of the three movies. He’s not bad as the voice of Gollum, but nothing special. Lots of people do funny voices with emotion behind them.
The difference is that he physically acted the character, elfkin.
The Academy says he is ineligible because his character was computer-generated. So he wasn’t eligible last year, and I can’t imagine he would be this year.
Sean Astin, totally. I was convinced the instant he said, “I can’t carry it for you… but I can carry you!”
Then again, I’m an old softie for friendship (I think it’s more important than family, in some cases) and I’ve never seen a more succint, to-the-point statement of what being a friend is all about. sniff sniff
I would think Serkis would eligible because voice actors are eligible for nominations. Ellen DeGeneres is a dark horse nominee for “Finding Nemo” according to one report.
What would the difference between an animated fish (created by a computer) and a CGI Gollum?
Billy Boyd is the most worthy nomination for an acting nod in this one.
I hated Andy Serkis when he did the live-action scene. Same with Deagle (sp?). I think they made a mistake casting those two, but since Serkis was already Gollum, it would be an insult not to give him that role.
Oh well.
The difference, as Marley23 has already pointed out, is that Andy Serkis physically acted the character, thus providing two benefits:
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in a minor way, he allowed the other actors something to focus on. Ian Mckellen had to do the confrontation with the Balrog by looking at a tennis ball suspended above him. :eek:
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in a major way, he provided the CGI boffins with both physical and facial prompts. He wore a motion-capture suit throughout, which meant his actions formed the basis for the CGI. Plus there is a sequence on the TT EE DVD (if you see what I mean!) which shows the original film of Serkis acting in close-up, compared to the final CGI facial expressions of Gollum. Practically identical.
I think you misunderstood BobT’s question. Read it again. If Ellen DeGeneres could be nominated for Finding Nemo, why couldn’t Serkis be nominated for his portrayal of Gollum? That’s what he meant by “what’s the difference?”
**(and I’m not sure that Ellen could be nominated for her voice work, I’m just going on what others are saying here)
I can’t believe that Theoden wasn’t nominated for Best Supporting Actor for TTT. He was at least as good as Daniel Day-Lewis in Gangs of New York, and I would have been satisfied if the latter had at least won. (The two put in some of the best acting I have ever seen on screen.)
He wasn’t as good in ROTK, but still better than Serkis in ROTK. I just can’t suspend my disbelief when he is in the “Gollum” character. When he is in Smeagol, he is a bit better.
Tangent,
I think you misunderstood my post. Read it again.
The difference between Nemo and Lord of the Rings is that Serkis not only did the voice, but also provided all the character’s movements and much of the facial expressions.
I believe I found the rule governing who is eligible on the Academy’s website:
Wouldn’t that make him more eligible than her?
I think Elijah Wood deserves a nomination for Best Actor as well as Billy, Ian, and Sean. Going to be an interesting Oscar show for sure!