Ummm, Rev, women in victorian times used to remove their lowest rib so that they could have a narrower waist. So you can’t tell me this shit is new.
Do you have a cite for this? I ain’t doubting your word, I would like to know more about this. I have never heard of this practice and I would have supposed that surgery in Victorian times would result in a lot of death.
Sad, but nothing has much changed since the day some Homo erectus learned vanity and dabbed a little red mud on his / her face. The rest of the tribe applauded, then started arguing over the quality of the mud and who wears it best. It was a crock of shit then and is a crock of shit now, even though it’s fun to watch.
And any asshole who serves the public should serve ALL of the public or get into another line of work. Far right, Republican politics might be something the turkey could look into.
I’m kinda reminded of ‘Mimi’ on the Drew Cary Show. 200 pounds overweight, doesn’t give a rat’s ass what anybody thinks, and be’s stone evil. An inspiration to us all.
Tina Turner STILL has the best wheels in town!
Freak wrote
Yet another Urban Legend: http://www.snopes.com/horrors/vanities/ribs.htm
…rules for OLD PEOPLE:
(1) complain endlessly about crime, the high cost of living, young people, etc., etc., etc.
(2)talk incessantly about your ilnesses, doctor visits, latest symptoms. Bore your listeners with gross descriptions of recent operations you have had …example: …" they had to drain a quart of pus from the abcess…"-do this particularly at mealtimes.
(3) ALWAYS drive 45 MPH or slower in the left lane…never get over!
(4) ALWAYS clog the roads on Saturday mornings…you simply MUST get to the Post Office to buy stamps!
(5) insist on going to the checkout counter with lots of items WITHOUT price tags…complain about the service always!
(6) bore people with talk about how hard you worked when you were employed!
Nope. According to the last Marilyn auction, the dress was maybe a size 5? (I will try to find a cite for the exact size, but the dress was very small). The rumors of Marilyn’s weight are over exagerated. She may have been curvy, but she was actually a small woman.
JMHO - If a 350 lb woman wants to wear a thong bikini to the beach or a stick-thin, 6’8", hairy-back guy wears Bermuda shorts and cowboy boots to the 7-11, or God forbid a woman over the age of 30 puts on a miniskirt, who the are you to say they shouldn’t?
If you don’t like the way the look, by all means, turn your head and congratulate yourself for being a shallow, bigotted, judgmental, asshole.
I dunno. Maybe I haven’t made it clear in my previous posts. So, please bear with me, I’ll try to do better this time.
THERE ARE NO FUCKING RULES!!! I’m old and ugly and dirty and crippled, and I don’t give one good, goat-felching, rat’s ass what anybody thinks about it.
Hm. There now. Anybody who can’t grasp that needs to get some new meds.
“As you are, I once was. As I am, you will one day be.”
I haven’t found the dress size yet, but Marilyn Monroe was 5’0" and her weight fluctuated between 100 and 119 lbs. Her messurements were 38-23-36.
A size 20 would have drowned her.
Her **measurements[\b] were 38-23-36 as well. 
I’m so sad I missed this, and didn’t get a chance to point it out. I mean, Freak, I expect more from you. Did you ever hear of snopes.com? Why don’t you spend some time over there, and peruse the contents? That way, you look less like a dope and more like a Doper.
And I think both Freak and Lex are missing the point of the thread, and the OP. It’s not about Lex’s comments, or Sassy’s personal experience. It’s about people’s judgemental attitudes in general. She never named Lex by name in the OP, and she said numerous times it had nothing to do with Lex. I think Lex has a mightly large ego, and sees things that don’t exsist. Unless of course, he is guilty of judging people based on appearance. Then I could understand why he’s so bent out of shape, and getting all defensive.
Mighty large ego? Yes. And I’m not the only one. Your haughty, presumptuous attitude in your post speaks volumes of your own not insignificant ego.
Check it:
Seeing things that aren’t there? No. Not only that but hell no. Further, Hell fuckin’ no.
Are you insane pepper? I know you’re a whitestem, but damn, you’ve always been a smart whitestem.
Okay, let me enlighten you…
compare my first post here with sassy’s OP in this thread.
And you’ll see that she is pretty much talking directly to me. She even apologized for dragging me into the middle of this.
I have no problem with Sassy, she is a likeable whitestem just like you. I don’t think that there is anything further between she and I, I apologized in an offhand way for my comments.
It was hard for me to apologize, as I didn’t (and still don’t) see how I did or said anything wrong.
Anyway, the point is that in the OP she was pretty much replying directly to my post. Several other’s chimed in, noticing the same thing.
In any case, this is all beside the point. I thank you for your opinion, and hope that in the future, you will ensure that your brain is engaged before you let fly with your fingers.
Thanks for taking my post personally, since I obviously directed it toward Sassy. I clearly addressed you, what, like 37 times in my post? Can I have my business back? Thanks. Hey Lexicon - I don’t like you. I really do not.
I am so sick of you saying, “I am going to speak my mind, say what I want, blah blah blah. I will not censor my thoughts for anyone, blah blah blah I am going to tell it like it is.”
Example:
Actually, all I see you doing is repeating the same tired bullshit rhetoric that everyone recognizes. Maybe if you were contributing something new…but no. Just “I hate when fat chicks complain about finding men,” or “Old people should not dress young.” Gee, thanks for the insight.
How about you think really hard for about five years, come up with an original insight, and then post. Because I am sick of reading the recycled shit you blow out of your ass every chance you get, all in the name of honesty. Whatever. Honesty and cruelty are two very different things.
In the future, I will just completely disregard anything with your name on it. There is no point in me even replying to anything else you write in this thread, because I know what it will say: “Nacho4Sara is so dumb. Am I talking slow enough for you? Blah blah blah.” Instead of actually making a comment in return, I know I would read about how stupid you think I am because I have the audacity to challenge your precious honesty.
Fuck you.
Sassy (this is the part where you stop reading, Lexicon) - I agree with everything you say. I don’t have to have experianced ageism, sexism, or general rudeness and cruelty to understand how much it hurts and the extent to which it affects people. Jesus, when did sensitivity get to be such a faux pas?
I have witnessed and experianced more cruelty on this board in the past week that I have IRL in the past year.
Probably because assfucks like Lexicon (this is for you, apeshit) don’t have the balls to exercise such honesty in real life.
Since you aren’t going to read this, I guess it doesn’t matter.
So much the better, I won’t have to lose any more sleep worrying if I have disturbed your delicate sensitvities. I know you don’t like me. You and I have not liked each other since the first time we “met”.
Let’s begin:
I didn’t take your post personally, girly. But what you said was assinine. That’s all I was pointing out. Do you have a thick neck? Cause your head is solid bone.
You’re sick of me not buttering people’s asses because they seem to have a hard time dealing with reality? Gee, that sucks. I hope you can stay on mom’s tit and in college until you retire, so reality doesn’t smack you in the face like a bucket of cold water.
Tired bullshit rhetoric? Do you even know what “rhetoric” means? Everyone recognizes it? As what? I had no idea I was so hated here, maybe I should start a “Hey, feel sorry for me!” thread of my own.
“An original insight”? Do you have any idea how stupid that makes you sound? You’re in college, right? Maybe if you stopped worrying about the posters your friends had, and the amount of time they spent jerking off to Britney Spears, and spent some time trying to pass your English 102 class, you’d understand what I’m talking about.
I don’t think you’re stupid for “having the audacity to challenge my precious honesty”. I honestly don’t know why you’re stupid. I don’t know why chicken-shit has a white spot on the top, either. I don’t ponder these things. You will always be stupid, and chicken-shit will always have that white spot, and I will never give a fuck about either.
And it’s not only my honesty that’s precious. If everyone were honest, and up-front, everyone would get along a lot better.
But I’ll try and tone it down.
You’re welcome.
Pepper-
As far as the inaccuracy of my statement goes, one of my teachers in high school told me that, and I assumed it was true. That’s public school for you. Anyway, it doesn’t sway my point, which is that lookism is not a new thing. I personally think it’s because people yearn for status, and more importantly, rules by which to determine people’s status. The rules may change, but the intent stays the same.
Besides that, yes, it was rather obvious that the OP was in response to Lexi, or was at least triggered by his comments.
N4S-
Actually, that wasn’t what he was saying at all. What he was saying was, “you shouldn’t try to be something you aren’t, otherwise you’re lying to yourself”. Perhaps he didn’t use the best words to state that opinion, but I do believe that was his intent.
This from the woman who once said that all men her age are pigs? Well, I’m your age. So I’m offended. That was an incredibly insensitive thing to say. Not to mention, at least as offensive as saying “Old women should not dress young.” Which, by the way, no one ever said.
I see in you a rather dangerous inclination, which is to become so clouded by righteous indignation that you can’t see things clearly. Combine that with your raving bull-headedness, and it can get pretty ugly (before you jump all over me, I’m not talking about physical appearence). Here’s a clue, if everything you see is red, it may be a problem with your vision, not with the color of the world. There, you’ve got your first clue, how does it feel?
I’m the first to admit that the state of our society is fucked, but you’re attacking the wrong people. And I do think you’re basically on the right side. But just because you’re on the right side, doesn’t mean you’re right.
In conclusion, if the road to hell is paved with good intentions, then you’re in the passing lane.
For those who are having a hard time grasping this thread, let me try to put it into simple words.
There is a huge difference between looking at someone and thinking to yourself “God that 70 year old woman in the leopard print miniskirt with her tits hanging below the hem looks ridiculous” and looking at the same women and thinking that she has no right to wear that outfit.
No one has an obligation to look a certain way just to please your eye. How presumptive and shallow minded of you to think that an older women is not being herself by wearing provocative clothing and heavy makeup. Maybe she is the town tart? Who the fuck knows or cares? It isn’t up to you to decide that she should be home quilting so stop being such a busy-body.
Is your own life so dull that you must analyze the lives of others to determine how they should be living and dress accordingly? I hate this cliche, but it fits - Get a fuckin life for Godsake.
Oh, and count me as one who is tired of the old “I’m a hard ass” bullshit you are constantly spewing across the board. It’s like people who tell you they are funny. If you’re funny we’ll laugh, if you have to tell us, you’re probably not funny. If you have to tell us you’re a hard ass, well. . . . :rolleyes:
Oh well, I lied.
from Dictionary.com:
And I’m a fucking English major, so I wouldn’t question my skills again. I tested out of English 102 and all the classes leading up to Brit Lit 260. But I;m sure that doesn’t matter to you.
Hey, and thanks for proving me correct! “Nacho4Sara’s head is solid bone! She is so dumb! Hardy har har!”
Told you so.
Freak, don’t believe everything you hear, especially if you hear it in a public school. 
Lex, thank you for posting. Everytime you do I get a hearty chuckle. Maybe one day you’ll realize how silly and fatuous you sound, and will stop posting. I for one hope that day never arrives, because then who’s mindless, puerile posts will I read for a laugh then?
Diane, thank you. As usual your intelligence is an example for us all. Lex will probably come back and say “But I didn’t say that!” Of course, not realizing that you are no longer addressing him. Every thread is about him, and if it’s not, well, he’s got to make it about him dammit!
[Moe Szyslak]Call this an unfair generalization if you must, but old people are no good at everything[/Moe Szyslak]
Diane- Saying “Everyone has a right to wear whatever they like” is fucking obvious. And I don’t think anyone is going to disagree with you on that one. At least, I’m not.
*Yes! That’s right! You’re absolutely right!
What do we have for them Bob?
A shiny new Last Word! Yes, with this last word you can feel as though you accomplished something! It comes complete with a false sense of fulfillment!
Thanks Bob! And thank you for playing “Stamp Your Foot, Insist You’re Right, and Refuse to Listen to Reason”! Let’s have a nice round of applause for our two winners, ladies and gentlemen!
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