[QUOTE=Starving Artist]
But having said that, is there some question as to the veracity of Sharpton’s comment?
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Certainly there is. The cite is Rush Limbaugh. Does that not raise questions for you?
[QUOTE=Hostile Dialect]
As for Shodan, I think we can write him off as being off in loony-land with Rush and ignore his absurd arguments in this and other threads altogether.
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I believe that is something we can all agree on.
[QUOTE=Frank]
Certainly there is. The cite is Rush Limbaugh. Does that not raise questions for you?
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Not necessarily, given that I don’t listen to Limbaugh. Nor does the thrust of this thread go to that issue. Like I said, I haven’t scrutinized every post, but the main discussion seems to be what a bad guy Limbaugh is for egging on Sharpton and his followers and the disruption they’re likely to cause in Denver. I don’t recall seeing anyone calling bullshit on Sharpton’s supposed comments, and it was with that spirit in mind that I made my post.
If Sharpton has indeed said no such thing I will retract my post, but with the caveat that the lambasting Limbaugh is coming in for here should be directed at his misrepresentation of what Sharpton said and not for cheering it on.
[QUOTE=Starving Artist]
If Sharpton has indeed said no such thing I will retract my post, but with the caveat that the lambasting Limbaugh is coming in for here should be directed at his misrepresentation of what Sharpton said and not for cheering it on.
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Now to a sensible human being it would seem that *irrelevant *of what Sharpton said, Rush said degenerate hateful bullshit.
[QUOTE=Starving Artist]
Not necessarily, given that I don’t listen to Limbaugh. Nor does the thrust of this thread go to that issue. Like I said, I haven’t scrutinized every post, but the main discussion seems to be what a bad guy Limbaugh is for egging on Sharpton and his followers and the disruption they’re likely to cause in Denver. I don’t recall seeing anyone calling bullshit on Sharpton’s supposed comments, and it was with that spirit in mind that I made my post.
If Sharpton has indeed said no such thing I will retract my post, but with the caveat that the lambasting Limbaugh is coming in for here should be directed at his misrepresentation of what Sharpton said and not for cheering it on.
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I actually wanted to hlp you here and find the original Sharpton quote and post it here with whatever context was available, but if he ever really said it, I can’t find it. After a whole bunch of google news searches, the only source I can find for the alleged Sharpton quote is Limbaugh himself. I don’t know what Limbaugh was referring to or if he was making it up, but I can’t find a cite for Sharpton saying “There’s going to be trouble [if the superdelegates take the nomination away from Obama],” other than Rush Limbaugh saying he said it.
Even the statement as alleged is pretty vague and does not at all imply any dark threat of violence. Who doesn’t think it would cause trouble if Obama was denied the nomination after winning the pledged delegates and the popular vote?
Maybe I’m too generous, but I think it’s unllikely that Rush just made up the quote out of whole cloth. To me it has the feel of Al Sharpton answering a question somewhere sometime (though I can’t actually find it), and Limbaugh putting a completely disingenuous spin on it.
[QUOTE=Shodan]
No, sorry - BrainGlutton has already admitted putting words in Limbaugh’s mouth, and the quote in the OP seems a bit too cut up to be definitive. And when asked for a cite, he simply threw Limbaugh’s website up and wanted me to do his research for him.
I think the quote’s been doctored, in the sense of leaving out a bunch of stuff.
I think Algher is a lot closer to correct than BG. Sharpton is the one threatening “street action”, and Rush is hoping Sharpton is as good as his word. Because more “street action” at the Democratic convention will make the Democrats look stupid and lead to the defeat of Democratic candidates. But not because Limbaugh is calling for riots, but because Sharpton is, along with all the other fringe elements of the Loony Left.
And another tactic of the Loony Left is willfully to misinterpret. It happens. If Wright had said the same thing, the Usual Suspects would be falling all over each other excusing it.
SOP.
Regards,
Shodan
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Sheesh. You try to give a guy the benefit of the doubt, and think perhaps that he was just posting idiocy in the heat of the moment…
Jackass.
I agree in both regards, Dio. I’ve been searching myself, and like you I’ve been unable to find anything other than Limbaugh saying that Sharpton said it. And yet, like you, I find it difficult to believe that Limbaugh just made it up out of whole cloth.
I’m inclined to agree with you also that Sharpton said something along that line at some point and that Limbaugh put his own spin on it.
Without Google we ain’t got much, huh?
Reminds me of South Park a couple of weeks ago when the internet went out. No one, not even news programs, could find out what was happening. 
[QUOTE=Shodan]
Sorry, BG - it’s hard to keep track of which quotes you are falsifying.
Regards,
Shodan
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On the other hand, it’s not at all hard to keep track of your knee-jerk, right-wing, party line idiocy.
Kinda hard to keep awake through it, though.
[QUOTE=Starving Artist]
This is quite interesting. Sharpton predicts (i.e., incites) violence in the streets. Limbaugh says good on ya, act like asses…it’ll pay off big time for us pubbies.
Everyone here then blasts Limbaugh and says nary a peep about Sharpton.
What’s up with that?
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Well I’ll give you some help on that one.
Sure it’s not a ton of replies to it but the thread was about Rush’s quote not Al’s.
[QUOTE=Starving Artist]
I agree in both regards, Dio. I’ve been searching myself, and like you I’ve been unable to find anything other than Limbaugh saying that Sharpton said it. And yet, like you, I find it difficult to believe that Limbaugh just made it up out of whole cloth.
I’m inclined to agree with you also that Sharpton said something along that line at some point and that Limbaugh put his own spin on it.
Without Google we ain’t got much, huh?
Reminds me of South Park a couple of weeks ago when the internet went out. No one, not even news programs, could find out what was happening. 
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Actually, the latest from Sharpton is that he is threatening riots in NYC, because the courts acquitted the cops. (Cite.), and it’s not like Sharpton hasn’t made racist and inflammatory comments in the past. And of course, we all remember 1968.
Regards,
Shodan
[QUOTE=rowrrbazzle]
Dear idiot OP and other idiot leftists in this thread, this may be news to you, but dreaming something doesn’t make it happen.
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It does, sometimes, if you have a microphone. That’s what Rush is counting on, anyway. See posts #21 and 32.
[QUOTE=Shodan]
Actually, the latest from Sharpton is that he is threatening riots in NYC, because the courts acquitted the cops. (Cite.), and it’s not like Sharpton hasn’t made racist and inflammatory comments in the past. And of course, we all remember 1968.
Regards,
Shodan
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Sharpton does not threaten riots in your cite. He doesn’t even say that he dreamt about riots.
[QUOTE=rowrrbazzle]
Dear idiot OP and other idiot leftists in this thread, this may be news to you, but dreaming something doesn’t make it happen. Remember that when you enter second grade.<snip>
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I believe MLK claimed to have had a dream; he certainly made a lot of the things he dreamed of come to pass. You might do well to remember that idiocy is as idiocy does, as Forrest Gump might have said.
[QUOTE=Shodan]
And of course, we all remember 1968.
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Sharpton was not in Chicago AFAIK. But Rush remembers 1968; it’s the whole inspiration for his Operation Chaos.
[QUOTE=Shodan]
Actually, the latest from Sharpton is that he is threatening riots in NYC, because the courts acquitted the cops. (Cite.) . . .
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And King got the idea from Gandhi, who was accused of inciting riots, I’m sure, but not honestly.
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99]
Kinda hard to keep awake through it, though.
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Try reading the Sho-bot’s posts in a Dalek voice. Helps a lot.
[QUOTE=Shodan]
Actually, the latest from Sharpton is that he is threatening riots in NYC, because the courts acquitted the cops. (Cite.), and it’s not like Sharpton hasn’t made racist and inflammatory comments in the past. And of course, we all remember 1968.
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Sharpton didn’t say anything about riots in NY, the portrait of Sharpton as a racist is dubious at best (oooh…he said “white interlopers” :rolleyes: ), and what does 1968 have to do with Al Sharpton? Also, what does protesting a police shooting in Harlem have to do with the Democratic Convention in Denver?
The bottom line is that there is no cite for Sharpton ever threatening to riot anywhere and no cite other than Limbaugh for Sharpton even saying there would be “trouble” at the Convention (which every pundit says there would be) if the popular vote is overridden by the superdelegates.
Do many members here on the straight dope habitually cite things without reading them first? I just want to know what I can get away with in future debates…
[QUOTE=Spit]
And yes, I do consider her a voice of the left since she took over for Randi Rhodes on Air America. She is a far better host, imho.
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Roseanne Barr did not “take over” for Randi Rhodes. Barr is one of a series of guest hosts who have filled the time slot since Rhodes quit. Others include Joy Behar and Richard Belzer. Barr has not to the best of my knowledge been hired as the permanent host of that time slot.