Chronos:
They probably will be, but they don’t have to be. Remember, the reason all this stuff was made was to neutralize the Russian military. Once that purpose is served, it doesn’t need to be replaced.
Much of it was designed for that, but now that Russia is no longer a conventional military threat, it will be re-designated to neutralize the Chinese army. So it should and most likely will be replaced.
More about the long range missiles.
The GLSDB also gives Ukraine forces an ability to strike anywhere in the Russian-occupied Donbas, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions. It also allows Ukraine to threaten Russian supply lines in the east.
Manufactured by Boeing and Saab, GLSDB is a gliding rocket with a small bomb attached, capable of striking a target within one metre of its position.
And it can be fired from a variety of weapons systems, including the Himars and M270 MLRS systems already in use in Ukraine. However, both the Pentagon and Boeing refused to comment on delivery dates for the system, with some reports suggesting that it could take up to nine months before it reaches Ukraine
I can’t see us getting into a land war with China. Cyber, probably, and naval, but the logistics of getting enough AFVs across the Pacific and onto shore to be effective would be daunting at best.
I get that it would be difficult, but if you do have a war, you eventually have to take territory. So maybe from South Korea, or India, as a jumping off point.
Certainly not; that would be one of the classic blunders.
I think it would be more about defending the continental USA against invasion…
If there’s a war with China it will be about stopping invasion of Taiwan and preventing China from controlling their immediate neighbors. Success for China would be unification and maybe getting the US out of Japan/Philippines/SK. I don’t think invasion of the US would come into it at all.
Even more daunting. Does the PLA have any experience conducting a massive amphibious operation? Even the US’ last real operation was Inchon – a bunch of Marines were used as a distraction in Kuwait but never left their ships.
Amphibious? The Chinese don’t need ships:
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29 old tanks. Hope they’re better than the Soviet from the same era.
A spokesperson said on Friday that Olaf Scholz’s government had granted an export licence for the German-made tanks first produced in the 1960s and replaced within Germany’s own military by Leopard 2 tanks in 2003. Further details would be provided in the coming days and weeks, they said.
The news magazine Der Spiegel said the package contained 29 Leopard 1 battle tanks that were being refurbished by two manufacturers. Deliveries of the tanks from the industrial stocks could be made as soon as they were repaired, said Süddeutsche Zeitung, which first reported the plan on Friday morning.
The upcoming 2nd year of war will be much harder for Ukraine. Russian troops are getting battle experience and correcting mistakes.
Ukraine needs NATO tanks ASAP. The shit will hit the fan in a few weeks.Ukraine war: Russian threat growing, front line troops fear
But after several weeks travelling across the region, and more than a dozen on-the-record interviews and frank off-the-record discussions with a broad range of Ukrainian soldiers, I have seen various themes emerging.
For weeks, Russia’s notorious mercenary group Wagner has led much of the fighting around Bakhmut, sustaining catastrophic numbers of casualties by launching near-suicidal mass infantry attacks on smaller towns like Soledar. But in recent days, according to some Ukrainian soldiers, Russia’s regular army has resumed a more prominent role, with noticeable effect.
“It is very hard for us now. We understand that Russia is learning every day and changing their strategy. And I think we need to learn faster,” said Dmytro Podvorchanskyi, who heads a reconnaissance unit in Dnipro-1.
He and others spoke of the way well-equipped regular Russian forces were now hiding and dispersing their ammunition stores far better and targeting Ukrainian logistics routes more effectively. As a result, they are continuing to gain ground around Bakhmut and threatening another potentially significant town, Vuhledar, further south
It’s much easier to say you’ll donate to a cause.
Guardian feed
Germany ’s plan to quickly assemble two battalions of Leopard 2 tanks from European allies and send them to Ukraine is progressing slower than expected, as several states have yet to decide whether they can spare vehicles from their own stocks.
In Europe , other than Berlin, only Poland and Portugal have so far made concrete promises to contribute Leopard 2 tanks. Ukrainian soldiers are supposed to start being trained on Leopard 2 tanks in Germany and Poland from this week.
Other states appear to be prevaricating over whether to contribute as they consider the gaps the donated tanks would leave in their own defence.
The Netherlands, which doesn’t own any Leopards but leases 18 of the tanks from Germany, last said a decision to donate some of them to Ukraine had not yet been made, “but we certainly do not rule it out”.
Sweden has yet to reach a decision on the issue as its own Nato application hangs in a precarious balance due to Turkey ’s ongoing threat of a veto. Finland, meanwhile, has decided that it needs its Leopards to defend its own border with Russia , German magazine Der Spiegel claimed over the weekend.
Referring to the earlier link about a Ukrainian being castrated-tortured because he was a sniper - are snipers in the “likelier to be abused if a POW” category? I read that bomber pilots and flamethrower operators in WW2 were apparently also in the highly-likely-to-be-brutalized-as-POWs category.
Bomber crew are certainly in danger because they will be caught by the guy who’s Mama that just killed.
I recall a USAF training manual that said something like “It is generally ill-advised to eject over the area you just bombed.”
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February 7, 2023, 10:31am
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Dunder Mifflin is branching out, I see.
Modding again, please avoid bare links. At least let people know it is about production of artillery shells.
Now these countries have to swallow hard and actually reduce their inventory of tanks