This is parody, right?
Your link says that Biden said that “defund the police” was a bad idea.
Eta: my bad, I was looking at the snipped quote. Went back to the original and it all made a lot more sense!
Nvm…
But it is Ok to name the School after my Great Grandfather then?
Look, naming things after people dont mean they were perfect. No Mortal being is. It is just a way of honoring them for their accomplishments, while ignoring their foibles.
I don’t know your grandpa. Did he hold slaves, or talk about how black people were subhuman?
Lincoln didnt consider black people human?
True, in his early days he didnt consider them equal to whites, but his attitude changed. And he treated them as equals, with respect.
True, but by 1863, when meeting Frederick Douglass, his attitude had changed.
http://www.asjournal.org/53-2009/abraham-lincolns-attitudes-on-slavery-and-race/
Not, it is not.
Are you seriously arguing that 88 is never used as code for heil Hitler?
What are the limits of context? Historical? Geographical? Cultural? If Bob the racist is raised in a family with racist ideas and lives in a community where racism is tolerated, is his guilt less than Sue the racist who was raised in a more enlightened environment? Where do we draw the line?
It seems to me that we need to spend the effort to understand history not simply by solely glorifying or demonizing those who made it. By putting a name on a building or placing a statue in a town square, we rarely tell the whole story and often misrepresent difficult truth by elevating sanitizing myth.
He didnt own slaves, but you see, all we really know is that:
He donated the land for the school, and he fought for the Union repairing railroads. He was known for his cursing, that is about it.
I dont have any great objection to a school being named after him, but if people who attend the school did, or if they just came up with a better name, I’d be all for it.
another neo Nazi code is 14 words which stands for We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children
You didnt say “Among a small group of slope headed semi-illiterate red necked racists, 88 is sometimes a code for Heil Hitler”.
88 is generally “code” for the keys on a piano 99.99% of the time.
Just like after 4chan whoosed all the SJW a few racist picked up the upside down OK sign. However, the Ok sign means- OK 99.99% of the time.
Let us not let a tiny handful of racists determine how we use our language.
From earlier. It would be nice if you made an effort to debate the posts in the thread rather than strawmen you make up.
Foibles? Racism isn’t a foible.
Also, let’s not ignore faults, in any context, when we recognize accomplishments.
I’d be fine not naming anything after your grandfather. Most of our grandparents probably had huge faults without having the notable accomplishments of the people we are talking about.
You are right-Racism isn’t a foible- today. But a hundred & fifty years ago, it was.
Exactly the kind of historical whitewashing we want to avoid, thank you for the demonstration
It’s not “whitewashing” is is the simple fact that was is considered wrong today, wasnt wrong yesterday.
We now look down on smokers, but it was a common vice just 50 years ago, and it’s not rare today.
Just about everyone was racist 100 years ago. Holding what was normal & common then against them is “presentism”= judging people of the past by todays standards. And presentism is just as wrong as racism.
I still don’t see where he said it, but whatever. I also never saw Obama say it. Seems pretty O/T for this thread, though.