Well the contraction thing was made up just for that episode so there’s tons of mistakes like that. What really makes it really embarrassing was they screw it up in that very episode the last line Data speaks
“I’m fine” :smack:
One thing is that Sarah Connor seems too young to be his mom. Isn’t she younger than Linda Hamilton was?
One problem I have is that they landed on the middle of a busy freeway, but they seemed convinced that nobody knew they were there. I guess they don’t know about cellphone cameras, but there were a ton of witnesses.
That could actually make for some comedy, the very slight time shifting. How would someone from 1999 cope in the world of 2007? What kind of misunderstandings would arise? I wonder if they’ll notice that the governor of California is a Terminator.
I liked it enough to watch the second half of the pilot, though honestly I can’t really imagine how they’re going to make a regular show out of it. Robots chasing people around is gonna get kinda old after a few episodes, especially without the budgets to match the chase scenes from the movies.
On the other hand, The Fugitive went for four seasons, and that was basically the same thing without killer robots. So who knows
Also, as one of the few who liked T3, I was a little distracted by how they’re ignoring it, granted that it would be sort of hard to reconcile the two unless the put the TV show before the events in T2, or just had it involve Sarah Conner and not John.
Also not sure I like the overly human River-bot. But we’ll give it a few episodes to see where they’re going with the character.
Data could eat. Even though it wasn’t necessary for him to function, he could ingest food and drink in order to appear less conspicuous when in the company of humanoids. I think he was capable of almost total matter-to-energy conversion, so he had little or no waste byproducts.
Wonder how it will mesh with the Terminator 4?
Do androids dream of electric sheep?
Do androids crap electric turds?
Bad humor aside, a terminator unit covered with living skin would need a source of organic nutrients to keep the tissue alive.
On another note, just about every time there is a character in a show/movie/book who is a robot/android/whatever, they screw up the characterization.
Badly.
Most writers can’t seem to wrap their heads around how an emotionless being would reallyact.
Even Asimov screwed the pooch on it.
They either fall back on the socipathic human model, the grumpy misanthrope model, or the emotionally stunted child model.
It boils down to this: If killing is the most expedient solution, a robot should kill. Likewise, if kissing ass is quicker they would be just as quick to do that.
The only time I saw it done right was with the character of Kai on the Lexx series and he was a re-animated corpse.
You think that the John Connor of either T2 or T3 came off like a hero in the making? T2JC came off like a smartass punk and T3JC came off like a whiny wimp. This JC has also spent the last couple of years believing that he wasn’t going to be a hero because Judgment Day was stopped.
I give pilot episodes a good deal of slack, but one detail that bugged the piss out me was when the evil robot had Sarah pinned and called John on her cell phone imitating her voice. I find it impossible to believe that this pair, who have dealt on multiple occasions with robots who can perfectly impersonate voices and people, would not have simple code phrases worked out to cover this contingency.
That was exactly what I thought when I saw that part. I was actually hoping that they did have a code word and that John would be tipped off since Sarah didn’t use it. But, I guess they’re just not that smart :rolleyes:
Actually, didn’t she bitch at him for coming back to the house? So, though we don’t know what exact word it was, it seemed implied to me that there was some missing code word that told him he wasn’t supposed to come back to the house.
-Joe
I took that as more of a general “you’ve been discovered and attacked, coming home is not what you do when that happens.” Similar to T2 when she calls him out for coming after her at the psych hospital.
I saw it last night and really liked it, there were a couple of great touches. When she was painting the wall, I wondered what she was doing - turns out she was hiding a cache of weapons behind a flimsy wall and camoflaging it with a coat of paint. Great touch!
As far as the code word, John was definitely onto the fact it was not his mother. The terminator told John to “wait at the house,” when he found his mother she said “do as you’re trained and run.” There was probably also a code phrase but John didn’t even need to hear/not hear it at that point, he knew it wasn’t his mom on the phone, that’s why he sent Cameron in the house before him.
I really liked it, The Terminator/T2 are huge favorites of mine. Love the casting of Dean Winter, he’s been a favorite since Oz.
It wasn’t so bad. It’s been put on the Tivo list for the time being, so I can watch at my leisure. Of course, I’ll watch anything with Glau in it.
It was…okay. I might watch again tonight, just to see if it gets better, or worse, or if I’m wasting my time even thinking of getting involved in it.
I’m pretty sure that Sarah saying “I love you” would be code that 'clearly, that aint me".
the divemaster caught that immediately. if sarah’s supposed to be 33 and john is 15, then sarah was awfully young. i thought the linda hamilton character was in her early or mid-twenties. we both thought the actess playing sarah was a lot older than that.
for the record, we both liked it. time will tell if it’ll hold up enough to entertain us both.
Bad? Did you even * see * The Bionic Woman “reimagining” this Fall. * That * was bad. This, at worst, was a fairly journeyman effort at retelling/picking up the thread of the Terminator series. It wasn’t awful, but it had some amazingly huge plot holes.
[spoiler] When the teacher terminator showed up to assassinate John, why bother with a gun? This is a machine that can rip apart bank vaults. Just give him a friendly slap on the shoulder on the way out of the class room -- one that shatters his spine. And why bother with the embedded gun? If this school has metal detectors, you're not getting in the door anyway. So just stick the gun in your briefcase. [/spoiler].
Spoiler 2: If I were going back in time to build futuristic devices to help the cause, I sure wouldn’t go back to 1963. Even that primitive CRT would have had to be built from scratch. Why not go back to, say, I dunno, 1995 when you could buy or build cool electronic stuff for under $1million dollars?
One more quibble/question , but I’m tired of spoilers and someone has mentioned the scene already. When they came out of the time bubble and were all nekkid – did Sara still have a gaping wound in her shoulder?
No, apparently the wound healed enroute.
I like how these “terminator”(s) - you know, big bad robots whose entire pourpose is to KILL KILL KILL - keep missing - and it wasn’t just that John was really fast, this terminator kept firing ABOVE his head - shattering schoolbus WINDOWS with every shot.
Personally, I don’t think they could hit you if you were standing still.
I hear ya. During every Bionic Woman episode (of the three I watched), I kept thinking to myself, “Man, how do you make a show about a hot cyborg boring?”
I actually quite enjoyed last night’s Terminator: Connor Chronicles (which is how Comcast titles the show in the channel list, and which is why I nearly didn’t record the pilot). Even with the plotholes, I think it’s got potential.
I liked the idea of the 8-year jump, and it’s a good way to shoehorn the first two movies’ timeline into the series. Of course, I actually kind of liked the third movie, so I imagine my judgment is suspect.
Now, if only they can arrange for a naked Summer Glau in every episode, we’ll have a winner.
That’s not as bad as the age-munging they did for T2. The Terminator takes place in 1984. At the end of it, Sarah’s pregnant. That makes John born in late '84 or in '85. Terminator 2 takes place in 1992. Do you really buy Eddie Furlong as an 8-year-old?
Yeah, Sarah should be a lot older. If Sarah was 33 and John 15, then she would have been 18 when The Terminator and Kyle Reese came back for her and she became pregnant with John. But Linda Hamilton’s real age when the film was made was 28, so Sarah would have been around that age. Which would make her around 43 fifteen years later.