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I dread the girl terminator eventually developing emotions because she’s some sort of “new design” that can eat and have feelings and all that other crap. If she and John Connor have some sort of romance, it’s going to completely ruin the show, because I will be forced to believe that future JC sent a hot fem-bot back in time to pop his teenage man cherry.
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If they do that, hopefully, JC’s fake name for the episode will be “Billy.” 
[QUOTE=The Controvert]
If everyone judged things this harshly based on the pilot, nobody would’ve watched the rest of the Star Trek The Next Generation or Stargate SG1 series. Just an observation.
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A reasonable one. I will certainly keep watching for awhile, but I am going to be muted in my expectations.
[QUOTE=wolf in second hand clothing]
I dread the girl terminator eventually developing emotions because she’s some sort of “new design” that can eat and have feelings and all that other crap. If she and John Connor have some sort of romance, it’s going to completely ruin the show, because I will be forced to believe that future JC sent a hot fem-bot back in time to pop his teenage man cherry.
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I’ve been picturing this scene in my head for a couple of days, now, dammit:
Soft pop ballad playing on the radio. Cameron approaches John and takes his hand. As she gazes earnestly into his eyes, they begin to dance. Their lips approach for a kiss…as Sarah looks on, eyes wide and mouth agape in horror!
Sarah yells out, “GET THE HELL AWAY FROM HIM…YOU BITCH!”
Ooops. Wrong movie franchise. 
I just realised that they called Summer Glau’s Terminator “Cameron”. I can’t believe I missed that nod to its creator.
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And they acted nothing like robots. Why did the bad terminator pause before shooting John? That’s something a human would do. Machines don’t toy with their prey or stroke their own ego, which is what makes them so frightening. But this is all extremely obvious, which makes me wonder if the producers were all hit in the head with bricks while making this show. Another eye rolly moment was when Sarah asked Cameron about the contents of the isotope canister of death, and she responds with “hope.” Terminators shouldn’t speak in metaphor! Jesus. Yeah we’ll probably find out that she’s a special Terminator programmed to love, and they’ll keep neutering the terminators until there isn’t any sense of danger left. I wasn’t expecting much, but this makes T3 look like T2.
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[QUOTE=SenorBeef]
I liked that the terminator executed Enrique - not so much that we found out she was right. Better to leave it ambiguous.
The story really needs to emphasize the alienness of the terminator. It doesn’t think like a person. It’s not sentimental. Everything it does is a logical step in fulfilling its mission.
So when you’re dealing with a guy who could identify you, who could PUT THE FATE OF THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE IN DANGER by selling you out, if it’s logical to execute him*, you should. Sarah wouldn’t do it because of the sentimental attachment. But the fate of mankind trumps any one person’s life, even potentially innocent, a billion fold. The Terminator understood that - within the context of its mission - which is part of what makes them interesting as characters.
I worry that the show will humanize her, let her pick up habits from people, and essentially become a flawed human character that can kick ass. I hope they don’t go in that direction - the story is much more interesting with alien terminators.
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I’ve made similar rants in previous posts. I’m glad I’m not the only one bugged by this.
Haven’t seen the second episode yet, but we actually iked the first one.
And considering there ain’t a whole lot of new shows airing during the writers’ strike, it is better than watching repeats of most of the other series.
It is still on our DVR list - will see how the next shows go and decide from there.
[QUOTE=GuanoLad]
I just realised that they called Summer Glau’s Terminator “Cameron”. I can’t believe I missed that nod to its creator.
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Would have been funnier if they called her Harlan
[QUOTE=Elenfair]
Enjoyable? Aw yeah. Suspend disbelief. A lot. Including for bulletproof chairs. Some of it lends itself to MST3K-like commentary. Pull out the popcorn and have fun…
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There’s plenty of stupid stuff, but the chair really was bulletproof because Sarah had reinforced it with kevlar for just such an occasion; so that doesn’t require any major suspension of disbelief.
On the other hand, now apparently a standard killing-machine Terminator can be decapitated, and the severed head can remotely control the headless body. (Or else the headless body has a secondary brain and seeks out the severed head, which I guess gives off a beacon. Just like the Iron Giant, but not nearly as friendly.) Have to admit, the dead human head on top of the metal Terminator body was creepy.
Well, ya gotta keep the facemask on somehow, don’t you?
-Joe
[QUOTE=Baldwin]
a standard killing-machine Terminator can be decapitated, and the severed head can remotely control the headless body. (Or else the headless body has a secondary brain and seeks out the severed head, which I guess gives off a beacon. Just like the Iron Giant, but not nearly as friendly.) Have to admit, the dead human head on top of the metal Terminator body was creepy.
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I doubt a spoiler is needed by this point. I have to admit that I’m puzzled at how the robot body managed to claw out of the wreckage, decapitate a random passerby, and navigate to the head * without any sensory organs *. As others have pointed out, there’s just * nothing * plausible about the zombie terminator plot thread.
Who says a terminator’s brain is in its head?
[QUOTE=Lemur866]
Who says a terminator’s brain is in its head?
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The second movie…? IIRC, and please correct me if I don’t, the CPU that Cyberdyne recovered from the first T-800 came from its head.
What’s to say there isn’t redundant CPUs? In the 2nd movie, when Arnie got a ramrod shoved through his chest, shorting out his power supply, he simply re-routed to secondary power. It could stand to reason there’s a backup CPU elsewhere in the body.
[QUOTE=Autumn Almanac]
The second movie…? IIRC, and please correct me if I don’t, the CPU that Cyberdyne recovered from the first T-800 came from its head.
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I thought they had the arm in the safe - not the head - but that probably has no bearing on where they got the CPU itself. It was prettty clear that they did also had a chip that had to be destroyed (in the fires of Mt. Doom)
Cyberdyne recovered both the forearm and the CPU from the head.
Remember, the first one was torn in half and crushed but not obliterated. The bits were still in the press.
It was horrible.
Tiny spoiler ahead:
Starting with the old tired idea pf “it was only a dream”? :rolleyes: Summer Glau can do robot but she can’t really do kick-ass.
But worse was the plot. I mean, if T3 really changed the future, then John won’t be the savior (since if there is a war that kills of most of the humans, he’s likely to be one). And more. :rolleyes:
The two episodes I’ve seen were fun, though they don’t reward much thinking-about. I disagree with Diogenes. Mom seemed pretty fucking hard-boiled to me. Linda Hamilton from T2 was a hard act to follow, but you still get a character who is a unique blend of ballbuster and nurturer. Naturally, having a hot robot chick from the future come to save my life is one of my own fantasies, so maybe I’m being too generous, but I had no problem with Summer Glau as the Terminatrix. What bothers me is that she’s very graceful until you see her running, at which point she’s suddenly leaning way too far back, perhaps to reduce drag or something, and her arms seem to flop back-and-forth. I think they’re going to have to make her ninja-flip everywhere she goes.
[QUOTE=Finagle]
I doubt a spoiler is needed by this point. I have to admit that I’m puzzled at how the robot body managed to claw out of the wreckage, decapitate a random passerby, and navigate to the head * without any sensory organs *. As others have pointed out, there’s just * nothing * plausible about the zombie terminator plot thread.
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And how the hell was it that no one discovered the the headless metal man or time travelling equipment in the bank.
Damn, that show was stupid.
The really sad thing is that with the failure of this show and the Bionic Woman show studios will become even more hesitent to give another expensive sci-fi show a chance.
[QUOTE=Muad’Dib]
The really sad thing is that with the failure of this show and the Bionic Woman show studios will become even more hesitent to give another expensive sci-fi show a chance.
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What “failure” are you referring to? The pilot episode of Sarah Connor was a big hit for Fox, and while that may have just been curiosity about a new show, it’s too early to draw any conclusions.
Meanwhile, Bionic Woman has consistently been in the top 20 in the ratings.
So again, what “failure” are you talking about? Creative failure? That has nothing to do with ratings success, which is the only kind of success the “studios” you refer to care about.
[QUOTE=Muad’Dib]
And how the hell was it that no one discovered the the headless metal man or time travelling equipment in the bank.
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Presumably, the room was reduced to rubble. That would explain why the time travelling machine could not be scavenged – it could have been damaged beyond recognition. As for the metal body, there’s a possible fanwank explanation: we don’t know it’s the same metal body. Since terminator parts are presumably interchangeable, it could be a different body, sent from a different time, with a different history. Or you just have to accept, along with the existence of robots that can mimic humans and time travel, that the bank rubble was left undisturbed for 7 years despite being situated in expensive Californian real estate. Maybe the engineer they sent back had bought the bank over the years and made sure nobody disturbed the rubble? Or the time travel machine left behind hazardous waste that was kept walled off?
Does *Heroes *get a pass if something is too “comic book”, but Terminator doesn’t? I’ll admit, breaking the time travel requirement of being encased in living flesh was annoying (when the metal head was sent forward in time), but I’ll allow for that, given time and budget restraints of putting out a weekly 1 hour show.