SarahWitch, the premier expert on American law.

[Ann_Hedonia]

SarahWitch…SarahWitch… it all sounds so familiar…the incoherency, the batshit ideas about how government should work…SarahWitch…do you think she might be from Alaska? Maybe a former high level elected official there? And the undisputed queen of WTF? That would explain so much.

The quote below is from the other thread, I found it but I’m not sure it was linked to
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=825660
She appears towards the end of page 3.

But I was struck by her habit of highlighting random words with italics. It reminded me of how I punch up random words when I’m singing McArthur Park (Richard Harris version) at the karaoke bar. So I started to sing the below post to the tune of McArthur Park. It fit better than I expected although I had to replace Oh No Oh No with…All About…All About…pure bunk…pure bunk…and. ie NONE ie NONE.

It’s a long song. It was a long post.

@SarahWitch

This is quibbling. The sole issue is national sovereignty of a individual nation-states, which the USA does not have over its member-states-- as the federal government claims. Nothing else matters.

You’re confusing centralization, with national sovereignty– which the CSA states never ceded to the CSA Union, nor did did the CSA allege; indeed, that was the sole issue between the two Union, i.e. the USA claimed that the states formed a single nation-state, while the CSA states claimed they were always separate nation-states.

That’s what it was ALL about. If the North admitted that the truth, that the states were sovereign nation-states, then there could have been no war; however charlatans fabricated many arguments to deny this fact under color of law, from Jackson to Lincoln.

Separate nation-states can form federal republics which can be as centralized as they please, without forfeiting their status as separate nation-states; this can only be lost if they expressly manifest such an act; and the American states never did that.

That’s the confusion which plagues most people today, in claiming that USA’s common military, currency, whatever, made the states into a single nation-state, by implication… when all that is pure bunk. It doesn’t work that way, for reasons I just stated.

The Euro, the UN army, etc. did not make those nation-states into a single nation-state-- but Hitler, Hussein and Hirohito * claimed* this in their various conquests, with the same legal validity as Lincoln-- i.e. none. Again, it can only happen by* express action,* since a nation-state is its own supreme ruler by law, in terms of judging legal intent. Thus, nothing can be *left *to judgment in such a treaty which joins two or more nation-states as a single one.