Who has said that Matanov was actually facing 20 years? The dailykos? The NYP? The plea deal was for 30 months. I haven’t found any credible information that the judge actually had the conversation with Matanov that was reported in the linked thread in the OP. That’s two strikes against the alleged reporting of the dailykos.
It’s not publically known what information Matanov erased from his PC, or what Matanov discussed/planned with the Boston Bombers. Matanov would best know what he had, and hadn’t, done, but should the public believe Matanov’s version of what happened? Or should the public believe that the Feds are trying to ruin poor Matanov’s life?
Hahahaha. Why would anyone assume that this was an all-out effort by the FBI, BATFE, and NSA to follow up on every lead related to the assholes who bombed the Boston Marathon? Seriously?
The other information hasn’t been made public. Because there was no trial.
Do you have any reason to believe the New York Post is reporting the story inaccurately? Have you bothered to look for confirmation? I’m guessing not, because it’s not very difficult to find. I even linked the statutory provision he was charged under earlier in the thread, which includes the maximum sentence.
Are you saying that everyone found guilty of violating Sarbanes-Oxley is automatically given a 20 year sentence?
The maximum sentence is the maximum sentence, that doesn’t mean Matanov was actually facing a maximum sentence. Or does it? Somehow, as if by magic, the plead deal was only for 30 months. That’s 210 months short of the maximum.
Yes, it does. The prosecutors have discretion to ask for less than the maximum sentence, but there is no indication here that they were seeking a lesser sentence.
That’s not magic. That’s how plea deals work. At this point, I can only include you don’t understand enough about the criminal justice system to participate in this discussion, or you are feigning ignorance to prove a point. Do you know what a plea agreement is?
Perhaps he is asking what the sentence would be if he were convicted at trial rather than a plea agreement. 20 years being the maximum, is that likely what the Judge would sentence him to? What leeway would there be in sentencing?
ETA, is it possible for the judge to ignore the deal and sentence him to something else? Or would he have to reject the deal and not accept the plea, forcing the parties to renegotiate?
Impossible to say at this point what the specific sentence would be. The federal sentencing guidelines require the use of a scoresheet that tots up various mitigating and enhancing factors. However, the judge can depart from the scoresheet sentence if he makes specific findings supporting his decision to do so (for example, baby eating is probably not an enumerated enhancing factor.)
There’s no indication that the prosecutor was asking for the maximum sentence, either.
After a negotiation, the defendant agrees to plead guilty, and assumes the judge will abide by the negotiated agreement. The judge is not bound by that agreement, but usually does.
Sometime in June, Matanov will find out what his actual sentence will be.
(post shortened and I won’t subscribe to the WSJ, or any other media outlet.)
I questioned the version of the conversation between the judge and Matanov, as “reported” by the dailykos, and the NYP.
Where does the reported Q&A between the judge and Matanov originate from? A trial transcript? A conversation in the judges chambers? Maybe from a reporter’s imagination? Is it just another example of cut-and-paste journalism that was never actually vetted?
These are not secret proceedings, much as folks like you might prefer such a thing. They’re court cases, and while this might shock someone who “won’t subscribe to any…media outlet,” even in this day and age of media cutbacks, some newspapers actually send reporters to the courtroom.
I questioned WHERE the dailykos, and NYP, Q&A quote came from.
Given the dailykos’s record of publishing horseshit, innuendo, and political screed, I’m unlikely to take their word for anything.
However, I will gladly accept your word that the dailykos accurately reported the judges conversation with Matanov. Is that what you’re doing? Verifying the dailykos’s reporting?
Hahahaha. Apparently they are secret proceedings. :eek: I would like to know WHERE the dailykos’s Q&A between the judge and Matanov came from. This isn’t rocket surgery. If some newspaper sent a reporter to the courtroom, which one was it?
Because I don’t consider the dailykos and NYP to be trustworthy.
EVERYONE (and you know who they are) seems to be satisfied with the dailykos article linked in the OP. I’d like to know what those people know that doesn’t seem to be available to the general public.
Hey, asshole, RNATB gave you a WSL link. The fact that you’re too lazy or pigheaded to register to look at it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist.
Here’s a quote from that same article:
If you want to check whether the WSJ author, Jon Kamp, was in the courtroom, you can email him. The address is provided at the end of his articles: jon.kamp[at]wsj.com.
I recommend that, for every single newspaper article you ever read in the future, you investigate the background and check who was actually in the room to gather the information. It’s the only logical thing to do.
Or I could muddle thru life pretending to be as resolutely ignorant as someone like yourself. I’m very particular about which sites I sign up, or register, for. Cuts down on the amount of spam I receive at my emails.
Newspaper? Really? Who still gets a newspaper? Do you keep birds? I could flip you another bird, as if someone like yourself doesn’t receive a daily supply. Bwahahaha.
Bwahahaha.