Saying Hot Chick = Being A Misogynist Asshole

Isn’t it nice that we gals have a man here to tell us what we’ve experienced and how we feel about it?

He means well. He understands it’s hard work bearing children and doing housework while going about life barefoot. We don’t have time to figure out such difficult things as these.

as i posted in the locked thread i learned on how not do identify one based on looks in the 6t/7h grade : this reminds me of time I forgot the new teachers name and rm number in jr high and since I was late and in a hurry said "what room is the new teacher with the great boobs in "

I thought I was talking to a few guys I sort of knew (as she had been the topic of discussion since the first day she appeared )…….

the adult hall monitor that over heard me and was defiantly not amused ………
The teacher herself who knew I could be overly blunt when annoyed or flustered said " thanks for the compliment but id advise not repeating it out loud anymore "

OMG will you please stop worrying your pretty little heads about these weighty matters??

Y’know what, that was well reasoned and well said. Also a super excellent example of intersectionality in action. I’d put a golf clap smilie right here but there isn’t one. Sigh.

Because there is a time and place for everything. I would say something like that in a nightclub or a strip club but not to some random woman in the supermarket. I have said something to that effect to women that are close personal friends including coworkers that I know really well. Many female coworkers have done the same to me. It is all complimentary and in good fun.

Why can’t people understand the nuances involved? The real issue seems to be true sexual harassment and catcalling but only a small minority of men engage in that. Most people like being complimented on their appearance.

Ah, but the really important question is how do their fathers feel about it? Boyfriend? Husbands?

I could ask my husband, but I’m pretty sure his word is only worth about 3/5ths of Starving Artist’s.

It’s about not understanding for those of us with the social intelligence of a block of wood. I’ve been known to be sexually inappropriate, not because I want to subjugate women or don’t think they have a mind, but because sex is 90% of my personality. “What do you mean while you’re giving an astrophysics lecture isn’t the time for sex? We can do it between the lectern and the H-R diagram.” I try to suppress it and remember to be considerate as best I can.

Distinguo: The reason you want to be sexual in inappropriate circumstances is because you’re naturally a horndog, and once again, nobody is saying there’s anything wrong with that.

But the reason you sometimes express your sexual impulses in inappropriate ways is largely because our traditionally sexist social mores reinforce the assumption that you should be able to get away with it. That the sexualized thoughts of men are intrinsically relevant and deserving of attention in any situation, and that their expression should be assumed by default to be “just a fact of life”.

That’s the part that gets problematic.

Thanks! Half a cookie, coming right up. :slight_smile:

I thought we fixed that. :frowning:

No, I’m just somewhat inappropriate in general. :smiley: Also, it’s natural, although not necessarily accurate, to judge others by what’s in your own heart, and the random, sexualized thoughts of women are always interesting to me. If a female construction worker shouted, “Hey, baby! I want to fuck you right now!” I’d be pleased with myself forever.

Note to self: when promenading the boulevards of Brooklyn arm in arm with Starving Artist, be sure to call out “Say, sistah! Ya sure are a swell-lookin’ skoit!” at regular intervals until he explodes from embarrassment.

Note (a): Wear a Zoot Suit.

Note (b): Spin your pocket watch on its chain.

Because it is IRRELEVANT to the topic.

Here’s all the people at the swearing in…

I wonder how big that bloke in the back’s dick is? I bet he’s hung. If he’s in proportion, I bet it’s enormous. I’d like to see him on the nudie beach. snigger snigger

It is IRRELEVANT and it is demeaning to the person being OBJECTIFIED for absolutely no reason at all.

Men can be plug ugly, short, wear ferrets on their head, be a weird colour with white rings around their eyes, be old, wrinkled, wear disgusting old-fashioned clothes and nobody comments constantly on their APPEARANCE or start commenting on it out of the blue when SOMETHING ELSE is being discussed.

Here are all the senators after the vote as to whether we should get the blue widgets or the red widgets… It was a divided house, the issue hasn’t been put to rest…

Geez, old bob is an ugly piece of shit. What the hell is he wearing? Why doesn’t he get a decent haircut? I bet his dick is tiny. snigger snigger snigger What does his arse look like in those trousers? He shouldn’t be let out of the house, he’s so unattractive. They should hide him up the back and but somebody better looking in his chair, I can’t stand looking at him.

I repeat my original reply in this thread.

CLUELESS.

GITS.

Can someone please explain to me why some men just can’t seem to grasp the fact that this board is not their fucking “locker room/man cave/night out with the guys/drinking beer in the garage” whatever the fuck place??

Must they constantly assert their god and constitutionally guaranteed rights to be pigs when speaking about women? In a room full of them??? And then play victim when they get called on acting like rude, boorish assholes with no more manners than a crack-addled baboon?

Good god - grow up, act your age, and stop letting every damn fool thought that jumps into your pointy little heads about women and their ability to get your dick interested fall out of your mouths like verbal turds in a punchbowl! What is wrong with you??

Women have been explaining, in plain English and with lots of repetition, since roughly 1968, that they are perpetually treated as “hot chick on display” while their opinions, perspectives, suggestions, input on planning, etc etc etc, are ignored.

Part of being treated like “hot chick” involves being referred to as “hot chick”.

Against that backdrop, to toss the phrase out there when the referenced person is not in a pickup bar or otherwise trying to get some action kindled, etc, could be experienced as provocatively annoying.

You can see that, right?

This is part of the issue, I think. What follows is not directed at you. You just happen to be the person that brought it up. Men judge this issue in large part by how it would impact them. It’s not the same thing in any respect. Men think it would be cool to hear women judging them like a piece of meat walking by and yelling out their approval. It’s not.

I have been hearing “wanna fuck”, and much worse, since I was 8 or 9(?) Too young to really understand what it meant. It holds no appeal by virtue of its novelty. The cat-calling is accompanied often enough by physical gestures, in case I missed the point, that I feel disgusted when I hear it. To top that off, a significant portion of those men bump it up a level by egging each other on, so it turns into a group activity, points for volume and creativity! Or it crosses into the scary, because the guy starts trying to talk to you. Maybe they start following you, or they keep trying to get your number and then they yell at you because you’re a “cold bitch”. Their friends help out with that too.

Maybe you can role play with some trusted friends. In the real world, it’s not so fun.

Note (c): wait til Bee Gee is in town with her camera to document this.

Perhaps a significant part of the problem is that women nowadays talk like you do here?

I’m sure it rarely occurs to men to be sensitive to your high-minded feminine perspective when words like “dick,” “fuck,” “turd,” and “asshole” are spewing from your mouths like water from a fountain.

Perhaps a quote I happened upon recently would be of help:

“The more you act like a lady, the more he’ll act like a gentleman.”

Basically what you are asking is the that the men of the board behave like gentlemen and to be sensitive to your feminine perspective as women, while at the same time you’re comporting yourselves like truck drivers or longshoremen.

I asked early in the thread just what it is that women (of the type to complain about these things) want. If you want to be treated no differently than men, this is what you get. If you want special treatment based upon your sex then say so, and drop the pissy attitude toward men when they attempt to treat you differently.

It’s not a woman’s job to 'act like a lady" to make you act like a gentlemen. That’s on you. I ain’t here to fix you. Fix your fucking self. If you cannot, stay home and shut up.