Scores killed in explosions and shootout in Paris. Hostages being held

Having Putin head a crack-down operation on terrorism would be like appointing a serial arsonist fire chief. He has only ever worsened the situation in Chechnya and bears a significant amount of responsibility for Russia’s issues with domestic terrorism. His methods would only result in perpetuation of the violence.

I would rather enlist myself than watch a military with a history of absolutely callous disregard for life, civilian and otherwise, attempt to rectify the situation in the Middle East.

I endorse this message. (NSFW)

That’s why I think the ultimate goal that some folks want (not necessarily anyone in this thread or board, mind you) is to round up all the brown-skinned people, blow up all the mosques, nuke Mecca, make Islam illegal, and just move in and outright conquer every country with a “q” in its name.

I’ve been wondering how long it would take to have a returned-fighter attack.

Now, as Europe locks down, the terrorists can rest assured that the masses of refugees won’t slip from their grasp by being integrated into Europe, thus securing a future generation of hopeless people to carry the torch. It will also suit their purposes to make it harder for foreign fighters to leave the cause. They’d rather foreign fighters be stuck in Syria until they are killed.

I wonder if this is ISIS related. Supposedly France helped carry out attacks against ISIS in Syria.

However so did a lot of other countries. I have no idea why France would be picked as a target. Is it because they have a large domestic population of Islamists who were already there? So does Britain.

yep. Its time to take a page from Mossad’s book. Hunt these terrorists down one by one and execute them. No matter how long it takes. Agents working leads can take direct action. Combined with drone strikes, a well planned counterterrorism policy can be highly effective. It’s time that the people inspiring and training these fanatics be held personally accountable for their activities.

A precise surgical strike like this is much better than sending troops on the ground. Too many innocents die when blunt force is used.

Well, extremely dark thoughts might end up going along the lines of “it is them or us”. As a matter of fact a talking head on Spanish TV said not a half hour ago that this was “total war” (in the WWII sense). Go far enough down this line of thought and a way of ending the situation might be decided that basically calls for the genocide of the other side.

And it is not as if this has never been done before. History has plenty of examples.

Yes.

Fuckdamn, so they probably also took the date in mind when plotting this… and it will reinforce it

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It’s the date the King killed off the Templars.

Wow. Geraldo Rivera’s daughter was at the soccer stadium. She’s fine…talking to her dad now on Fox.

The dark side of the Global Village, as mentioned earlier.
OTOH yes, we are all New York, we are all Paris, we are all London and Madrid and Mumbai and Beslan…

Ironically, November 13 is World Kindness Day.

Glad you’re safe, clairobscur.

If they really wanted to do the whole “significant date” thing they might have attacked two days earlier.

If this had been 11/11 instead of today the French might have blamed the Germans for a veeeeeery late reaction to the WWI armistice.

Geraldo Rivera and Shepard Smith Video here.

This shit with Islamic extremism will not end until the message is severely curtailed, for example, Saudi Arabian propagation of Wahabbist thought financed through petrol dollars.

The mind boggles why Western (And even Chinese and Russian) leaders haven’t all closed ranks and told the Saudis to sort their shit out.

France has been involved in many military operations against Islamists, directly (Afghanistan, Mali, indeed now Iraq and Syria…) or less directly (Algeria, Libya, Nigeria…). And is more generally very active politically in the middle east and northern Africa. It’s one of the most obvious and logical target, on par with the UK.

And anyway, it’s not like you can assume that a less involved country would be safe. I wouldn’t be the slighest bit surprised if there was an attack on, say, Germany, next month. Especially since these attacks don’t need to be ordered by the leaders of an organization like ISIS. Any loon living in Finland could decide to follow the example and kill some crusaders.

President Hollande was apparently at that stadium when the attack began.

They’ve killed five terrorists. Have any been captured?

BBC just showed live footage of Freedom Tower in New York City, on the site of the 9/11 attack. The pole on top is now lit up like the French flag.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews-live/liveblog/live-updates-attacks-in-paris/#3799da91-3057-4833-9a21-271c388b2e53

Jacques de Molay, thou art again avenged!