And yet, if you read the economic analysts who are discussing world oil prices, it’s preciselywhat is happening.
and
And from a New York Times articlefrom about six weeks ago:
These are all recent articles, but this issue of OPEC countries continuing to pump oil in order to drive down prices and maintain global market share has been discussed in the financial press consistently over the course of this year.
If you were able to ask the Paris attackers what their motivation was, and get an honest answer from them, what do you suppose they would say?
To kill people.
They’re not killing for anything other than killing.
One of the promises that Canada’s new leader made was to bring in 25,000 Syrian refugees before the end of this year. He was elected a couple of weeks ago. Last year Canada brought in about 24,000 refugees from a variety of countries.
Tonight he went on national television and all he said was that he was shocked and saddened, blah, blah, blah. Nothing about condemning the terrorist acts, and nothing about backing off on his promise to bring in 25,000 Syrians.
At this point he appears hell bent on keeping this foolhardy promise. By January 1st, they’ll have us by the balls.
I would say that, if they were to be completely honest, their answer would be a bit more complex than you seem to think it would be.
You have to be a special kind of deluded to think the people who have fled a war-torn Syria to escape the exact same psychopaths that attacked Paris are likely to commit the same sort of atrocities in turn. It is nothing but thinly-veiled xenophobia - the perpetrators of the Paris attack and the refugees have as much in common as Timothy McVeigh did with the average white American male.
Without trying in any way to justify the Paris attacks, it’s not exactly a secret that Muslims in Europe struggle with the same sort of socioeconomic issues as African-Americans do in the US, nor is it a secret that most of them grow up in ghettos and receive little in the way of proper education. We’d have a lot fewer of them turning into radicals if we hadn’t basically treated them like shit ever since their parents arrived as unskilled labour in the 1970s.
Give it up Monty. ISIS just killed over 150 people in a deliberate sustained terror attack in Paris, one of the cultural capitals of the Western world. Why would you even begin to think that this is the time time to promote your bullshit politics? Nobody is interested because almost no one subscribes to your world-view. Your insinuations are simply insulting to those that do have real world concerns about what this attack will have on the immediate future of both the Middle East and Western Europe.
I hope you are right and I’m wrong, but in the meantime you should remove your rose coloured glasses.
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Without trying in any way to justify the Paris attacks, it’s not exactly a secret that Muslims in Europe struggle with the same sort of socioeconomic issues as African-Americans do in the US, nor is it a secret that most of them grow up in ghettos and receive little in the way of proper education. We’d have a lot fewer of them turning into radicals if we hadn’t basically treated them like shit ever since their parents arrived as unskilled labour in the 1970s.
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Well, destroying welfare states in order to save money and foster self-reliance will no doubt work as well in soothing discontent as did the minimal conditions endured by free American blacks until the 1950s.
Even the Saudis aren’t that stupid.
And what, exactly, are my “bullshit politics”? What, exactly, is my “worldview”? What, exactly, did I insinuate?
Except, of course, I’m pretty sure that you already know torture doesn’t work.
Yeah Monty, you’re a wonderfully enigmatic poster, we all know that.
So given your superior knowledge of the situation, what the fuck do YOU suggest we do? It’s all well and good to point out the problems…hey, any of us can do that!
But what do you recommend we do to eliminate or diffuse the ISIS terrorist problem?
Que? :dubious:
Monty you ask a lot of questions and knock others’ proposals. What do you propose is a good response to this situation?
That’s your response? Well, first off, my response does not include nuking an entire country or area.
Well, what DOES your response propose?
FFS Monty, it’s all well and good to criticize others, but unless you can come up with something more acceptable, then you’re just pissing into the wind mate.
IOW, you’re a fucken wanker Monty. 
Treat people like they’re human beings.
Enact and actually enforce legislation that prevents discrimination on race/religion/national origin/ethnic origin.
Ensure that everyone has access to a decent education.
Quit treating all Muslims in the country like they’re either terrorists or potential terrorists.
When a crime occurs, use good police work (as opposed to torture) to determine who is responsible.
Reform the prison system so that those incarcerated have more than a negligible chance of reform.
Treat people like human beings.
How’s that grab you?
Oh how quaint!
What about the ISIS killers? How would you deal with them?
With no motivation whatsoever other than some form of homicidal psychosis? Nah it cannot be their crazy ass belief system.
Who gives a fuck? With 160 people killed you make such inane post. It is unbelievable that you are so insensitive.
All worthy ideas as social policy, worth very little as a way to keep the West safe.
One idea is better than all of those: enact restrictive immigration policies that target countries that are hotbeds of extremism. Make people stay and fix their own countries rather than using the West as an escape valve to both escape their problems and to a smaller extent bring those problems with them.