Or she’s hiding an old STD.
Oh, gods of earth & air–WHO CARES?
She LOST THE DAMN ELECTION!!!
Elsewhere I’ve written that Governor Palin is an hubristically confident moron; the greatest tragedy of her life is that she was born a century too late for the career she was best suited for: wet-nurse. But she’s lost the election. There is no damn reason for the public to have access to her medical records, and it is inappropriate to seek them.
Sure, I can fully understand that this information would eventually leak out, but this is so incredibly cold and ruthless. This thread is somewhat less about how ludicrously unqualified Palin is (and she is. Thank God we dodged the bullet there.), but more about how the RNC is perfectly willing to jettison her without a look back, and all that less than a day after wanting her to be VP.
I know that politics is a nasty business, but man. Wait til the campaign is cold out of common decency, huh?
And of course Fox News is gleefully dancing all over her twitching corpse. Manipulative, disloyal bastards.
I just don’t see any philosophical changes happening for the Republicans. No drift toward moderation. No self-examination. They’re going to groom Bobby Jindal for the next race, just because he’s a strong minority politician, not because he represents any sort of basic change from the neoconservative agenda.
You know, I’m a Dem, so take what I say for what it’s worth, but I think Huckabee is sooo much better than Palin as the leader of the populist conservative Christian wing of the Republican party.
I guess you never finished the 8th grade either… you’re a little short there.
Well, Icerigger, the alternatives are few.
First assumption: the concealment of her medical records was politically motivated. Therefore, what could be in her medical history that could cause her ultra-social-conservative base to turn away from her?
Possibility 1: an abortion.
Possibility 2: a sexually-transmitted disease.
Possibility 3: proof of mixed-race ancestry.
Possibility 4: a terminal disease.
#1 is the most damaging to social conservatives; #2 would be embarrassing but not fatal to the campaign. #3 would have mixed results. #4 would undercut the argument that she’d be able to backstop the aged McCain.
Possibility 5: proof of an underlying mental disorder.
The situation is a trifle more ambiguous than your list implies. I personally would say that the North America includes Central America, but not everyone agrees.
The Republicans seem to me to be all surface. There’s stuff going on below what we see (or rather, what they project for us to see), but it’s not stuff that’s congruent with the visual. They picked Palin because a) she is a woman, and b) she’s a conservative Christian (or, at least, pays excellent lip service to being a CC). They’re definitely looking at Jindal because a) he’s a minority, and b) he’s a conservative Christian. Nothing the Republicans actually do involves any coherent philosophy of government for the greater good of the nation. Everything is style over substance. The Bush White House has probably been the closest thing to an Old West building facade that we’ve had in decades.
It’s like the Republicans are an empty party. They don’t actually have any governing philosophy anymore. There is no such thing as an actual Republican thinker anymore. They’ve alienated the few right-wing intellectuals they had in this presidential campaign, and they lost more to death in the last 8 years.
I think they have the potential to kind of coast along as a shell of an actual political party for another decade or two, but unless they address some of this stuff, they’re going to continue spiralling into irrelevancy.
That makes sense to me. Hopefully it’s sign that they’re figuring out that a big part of their base is dragging them down. It will be interesting to see where they go from here.
When she said that she was going to be in charge of the Senate I pictured jaws dropping all over Washington and thinking ‘like hell she is’.
And the democrats aren’t guilty of any of that, ever, no siree.
Bah, they’re all politicians, what more do you expect?
Absolutely. Huckabee is intelligent…he’s also a conservative Christian, but he’s an actual CC. His economic policies are populist, and very Christian (as in following the philosophies of Jesus). His only problem this time was money…the business Republicans (the ones with the money) were scared to death of him because of those economic policies.
Here’s some nightmare fuel for us Dems…Huckabee takes his lessons from Obama and encourages small-dollar donations from hundreds of thousands of evangelical and fundamentalist donors. I have no doubt that such a tack will earn him scads of funds. And that could be a problem for us, either in 2012 or 2016.
I said it would have to be damaging to her base. 
This one. But it will soon be dark again and she will rise from her icy coffin. Time to drive a stake through her heart.
And you can’t blame a journalist for trying to find out what has clearly been hidden, and for asking why they are hiding it. Hell, I’d like to have experts examine McCain’s records also with sufficient time to analyze them. But, since he is through, it is less urgent.
I would suspect that you are correct, except that there is a very strong conservative core in America. I believe a lot of people will vote conservative simply to spite the liberals, regardless of what core values the conservative party actually espouses. I think a lot of the future of the Democratic party (and progressive political philosophy in general) depends very strongly on what kind of performance the incoming administration can produce. If he’s perceived to be another Jimmy Carter (which is already high on the Righties’ talking point list), then we’ll have another rightward swing in 4 (or maybe 8) years.
IOW: I really, really, REALLY hope Obama’s up for the job, and doesn’t simply prove to be a half-competent, charismatic demagogue.
Sidebar discussion: what’s the future of American conservatism? As a moderate, I am a huge fan of checks and balances. I believe there MUST be a strong conservative voice in American politics (fiscally, that is. Social conservatives can go jump in a lake.) How does the RNC actually reconnect with solid, honorable conservatism, and lose the hyper-religious Guns-n-God “family values” horseshit?
I don’t see why this giving me ginormous wood is any of your business!
-Joe
Governor Palin cannot be a vampire for the same reason that Milhouse van Houton cannot be a geek.
Again: thread not so much about Palin, but more about the RNC and what this behavior tells us about them.
Why disloyal? Fox is actually reporting the news, and good for them. As for people in the campaign, why would they feel loyalty to someone imposed on them who was harmful to their cause? Maybe some of them were patriotic enough to be as scared of the possibility of her becoming president as we were. (Africa a country, sheesh.) Plus it seems she was obnoxious and abrasive, felt entitled, and never seems to have reflected on her shortcomings. I bet a lot of angst was bottled up there.
If this disaster forces both parties to really vet their candidates again, that would be great. It was done after the Eagleton disaster, but it seems they have to be reminded to do it every so often.
Honest curiosity, with zero snark added: tell me about it. I’m ignorant of any comparable strategic moves by the Dems, but I’m not naive (and to be fair, I did say “not that I have any proof that the Dems are any different”) and I would like to be educated about it.