I thought saying that it “doesn’t matter” and that I “don’t care” kinda indicated that I wasn’t really beating myself up over it. Strange misread on your part there.
What I’m actually beating myself up about is that I can’t lose another game this season. And even winning out probably means I’ll need tiebreakers to get into the playoffs. It’s been a really unlucky season for me. I have the second most points scored against me, and I have the most points scored in a loss out of everyone in the league, among other things. It happens.
Well you talked about how you regretted the trade and you knew something bad would happen but I don’t understand why - the trade wasn’t a factor in the outcome of the game.
No no, you’re attaching something here that doesn’t exist. I don’t regret the trade, it just didn’t work out that last week. And me being the pessimist that I am, I expect that it won’t work out down the road either. But there’s no doubt that it was the move I had to make. I don’t regret making the trade at all.
Now had I not made the trade, and had you not (once again) been bailed out by another 40+ pt. game… well then the result changes entirely. Not that it matters of course.
It’s going to take a lot of luck for me to make the playoffs at this point. And so far, I haven’t had much of it.
The score was 127.42 to 83.60. Had you started Roddy White and Ray Rice in place of Marshall and Johnson, it would’ve been 127.42 to 97.8. If you take away Vick, it would be 78.1 to 97.8, which means I would’ve had to have replaced Vick with any Qb that scored 19.7+ points to win. If I didn’t have Vick, I’d have some other backup QB who probably would’ve scored in that range. 3 free agents did. If I didn’t have Vick but you had made the trade, I’d have only needed a 6 point performance out of a QB to win.
So yes in an alternate universe where I didn’t have a backup QB and had to scramble for a free agent, yet and didn’t pick one of the higher scoring free agents, in which you didn’t make the trade, you’d have squeaked out a win. But like… how in the world is that Vick “bailing me out” with a big performance? My team has a big performance every week because I have a very good team. A very good team beat a less good team. How this translates into an apparent cosmic flukey screwjob for you I have no idea.
Good luck reaching the playoffs, though, really - I’d like to be able to beat you a third time
Quentin’s Jammers gives up Brandon Marshall and Pierre Garcon
Chicago Cutlery gives up Randy Moss and Brandon Pettigrew.
Battle of the dissapointing receivers. I think Marshall will end up being more valuable with Thigpen looking to him more than Henne did. At first glance I like Omni’s end of this, but an interesting trade. With the injuries in Indy, it might turn out that Garcon is the best of the bunch…
With Zach Miller coming back fine as far as I know, Jammers doesn’t have a desperate need for TE or anything. Hmm…
Anyway, Omni e-mailed me to ask me to expedite it before tomorrow’s games. I assume that’s the agreement you worked out - if there’s some objection to that from Jules voice it now.
We didn’t have any agreement beforehand, but if Omni would like that pushed through I won’t object to it. That seems to be how we treat all trades here. I don’t mind being in the minority about my concerns over that practice.
As for the trade, I’m swinging for the fences, plain and simple. Vince Young will be back and he should provide a better opportunity for Moss, along with a gameplan better designed to get Moss the ball. Pettigrew is insurance. Insurance with upside, considering Pettigrew has been very good with Hill under center.
I generally would interpret trades made a reasonable time before game day to be intended for that week, but that’s not always the case. For example earlier in the year you’d proposed a trade to Dale which he accepted at about an hour before gametime. You didn’t know the offer had been accepted and there was no way to reasonably know if that was your intention or not (and if not, you wouldn’t know to update your roster with the new players), so I held it off pending your approval.
It’d be easier to clarify things if during the negotiation process you mentioned whether or not you intended for this to go into effect immediately.
I think the expedited trade system has worked fine - it gives people more time to work out trades based on later and hence more accurate information, and also gives them more time to really look over the rosters on the weekend when they have time and all that. I don’t anticipate we’re going to see vetoed trades which would create a problem that would have to be retroactively rectified. In the case of something unusual going on, like when you accidentally tried to trade for MJD, we investigate it/discuss it before moving on.
Jules, it looks like you dodged the Brandom Marshall injury that the universe tried to throw at you. I don’t know but it may work like Final Destination where you can try to dodge all you want, but the universe is going to catch up to you.
I certainly hope not. I’ll have to do some reading up on the rules of the universe to see what the actual wording of the law is. The problem is that I can’t ever remember what page the information is on since all the pages are numbered 42. Might take some digging. As an aside, it’s funny to me that Marshall got hurt and missed half a game and still earned more point for his other owner than he did for me.
It’ll be really interesting to see if this gamble works out in the end or if my team would have been better off without my meddling. I thought I had a really strong lineup that could compete with any other in this league and so I was constantly holding off on making any moves. Every week my team found some way to rotate poor performances and tank my score and yet I held off knowing I had as much talent as anyone else and it would eventually balance out. I finally couldn’t handle it anymore and started making the moves I had been tempted to make all season long. So now we’ll see if those moves made me better or not, or if it was too late in the game anyway.
Quentin’s JAMmers gives up:
TE Zach Miller
RB Fred Jackson
Show Me Your TDs gives up:
WR Greg Jennings
This is my third trade in a week and a half, and I think the roster revamp is complete. I think in pure value I overpaid here, but I definitely needed to make a move to finish up that third WR spot. Now I can field a complete team, with no glaring holes, without needing to rely on either Vincent Jackson or Sidney Rice coming back.
Haha, that’s cute. You’ve played me twice, and one player accounted for 40% and 38% of your team’s points for the week. No, that’s not being bailed out, not at all. Your team had two bad weeks and you got bailed out. It’s not an insult, it’s definitely your year, enjoy it.
How is that even illegitimate if true? It’s not like I got a fluke score from someone’s third string WR going nuts, I got good performances out of the leagues #1 scoring RB and the league’s #1 scoring per game QB.
Considering how well my team has performed across the board all year, the fact that you played me on two weeks where my starters except for one in each case scored below average is actually more of a bailout for you.
I scored below my average score on our first game by 20 points and about my average in the second game. What does it matter how the distribution breaks down?
The idea that you’re trying to chalk up my wins on what is one of the most dominant fantasy teams ever to flukey, lucky, bailed out wins is very strange.
Edit: Oh, and the wins were by such a margin that even if those players had only had average days, I still would’ve beat you, making your objections make even less sense. It’s not like you lost by a point. Their huge days didn’t even matter.
I don’t think you realize how uncommon 40+ pt games are. It doesn’t matter who does it, it’s extremely fortunate to get one. It’s way less than one per season for each team, on average. That’s before mentioning that those guys are in the scoring positions they’re in precisely because they had that one big game each.
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That’s just not very smart. I guess I should be thankful for the losses. I really got lucky there! I just wanna thank the lord Jesus Christ for providing me with this opportunity. I want to thank my parents, too, for always being there for me.
“One of the most dominant fantasy teams ever…” Amazing.
In week one you won by 21.9 points when one guy had 41.8. You would have needed 19.9 points to have won anyway. Foster’s average points per game? 18.7!
It’s kinda funny that you’re so defensive about this. Fantasy sports is pretty much 99% bragging and bitching. You do more than your fair share of bragging. You got lucky a couple of weeks. People have a right to bitch. Suck it up.
In other news. I live for at least one more week. No thanks to Randy Moss.
So? What does it matter? If I have two star players, and both of them get 20 points, that’s just fine, but if one has a dud and gets 0 and the other gets 40 points - I’m lucky to have been bailed out? I scored less than my average for the season - if I weren’t so unlucky to have a few star players underperform, I’d have stomped you harder. And really - Arian Foster and Michael Vick are only doing well on account of coasting on that 1 big game?
You want to look at the numbers of the particular performances as evidence of being lucky/unlucky, bailed out, etc. That means everything comes into play. You’re lucky that Calvin Johnson’s 10-point 40 yard TD catch didn’t count. You’re lucky that Andre Johnson and Terrel Owens put up way below their average scores that day. You can construct a scenario in which you could’ve won, I can conduct an equally if not more plausible scenario where I beat you by 60 points.
You are selective constructing an argument from the variance of scores that paints a narrative of you somehow getting screwed. So you’re looking at the one guy who had the big day and ignoring the players that underperformed, declaring one lucky and the others irrelevant. You’re criticizing me from deriving 38% of my score from one player, but had you won that first game, Peyton Manning would’ve made up 36% of your score, so I guess you were lucky enough to get that performance out of Manning!
Just like… if only you hadn’t made that trade last time we played and Vick hadn’t gone nuts and even if I didn’t have Vick I didn’t pick up any of the three free agents who would’ve propelled my team winning over you anyway - if you construct the narrative with special pleading like that, you can somehow come up with a story about how you’ve been screwed. It’s silly.
The bottom line is that my team is way better than yours. I’ve scored 300 points more than you. My average score is way higher. In neither of the games I played with you did I exceed my average, neither of our games were close (winning margins of 22 and 44 points), and I didn’t get flukey huge days out of nobody players who I was using as fill ins, and even had I not got those huge days out of the players, the scoring difference was high enough that even average days would’ve won anyway.
This is more silly special pleading than someone selling you on the idea of bigfoot or ghosts. For you to somehow claim victimhood or flukey luck on this is just strange.
Is it not? Oh, I’m sure some random competant players playing a public yahoo league where half the players autodrafted has dominated their league harder - but in a league as savvy and competitive as this, and to have the top scores be 1. 1358 (with Gates still to play), 2. 1069, 3. 1052, 4. 1047… I would call that pretty damn dominant.
Oh, wait, so Foster needed 1.2 points over his average score and he got it? Ok, I’m sold, you got screwed really hard.
Yep, and getting your ass kicked is part of the deal too. You’re trying to squirm out of like the 15th fantasy defeat I’ve inflicted on you, and part of all this trash talking and bragging and bitching is pinning you down when you make up silly excuses.
Now’s about the time where I just stop because I don’t really like responding to the same stuff over and over again. Especially when you say something objectively false, get called on it, and then go right back to the wheelhouse. At least the stuff I say is probably false.
Here’s the bottom line: Your team stinks and you get bailed out every single week. Your new team name should be the Wall Street Exploding Pancakes in honor of your bailouts. Okay, I’m done.
As a sorely needed change of subject, has anyone else noticed DEF scores being off in the real time scoring? It doesn’t matter much, but I think the Ravens D should have scored 23 for me. Did I miss something here or are DEF scores always a little off until they’re finalized?
We don’t have any undetermined games this week heading into the bye. I have a shot at setting the single game scoring record with 140 points with Gates still to play. It’s at 149 now. Gates seems like he might not play, in which case I’ve got McMichael, but probably not a big scoring game.
If I’d have stuck with Rodgers over Vick, I’d already be passed 150. Oh well.
