I wrote a utility to process all the data. You have to copy & paste the roster page for each player each week. Takes around 5 minutes for four leagues combined, so it’s really not bad. All the figuring and formatting is done automatically.
I’m hoping you’ll run it for the Big League, but I have to finish sanding off a few rough edges first. It requires Windows (2000, XP, Vista, or 7), needs no installation, and never accesses the internet.
Sounds good, thanks.
Remember that these numbers are weekly averages through the current week. Thanks to SenorBeef for helping me switch over from fantasy team names to SDMB usernames.
SDMB Auction Draft FF - Week 2
SenorBeef…136.66…88% B+…
VarlosZ…122.21…75% C…
Ellis Dee…120.23…69% D+…
Hamlet…106.52…96% A…
It’s Not Rocket Surgery!..103.08…82% B-…
Chuck…98.13…82% B-…
Omniscient…96.83…93% A…
Jules Andre…95.71…86% B…
Dalej42…90.69…89% B+…
Mike…87.89…80% C+…
Now I know why I suck so bad in the Auction league. D+?! Ouch.
New version now shows current week and season averages separately.
SDMB Auction Draft FF - Week 2
…General…Head…Season…General…Head
Week 2…Manager…Coach…Average…Manager…Coach
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SenorBeef…160.60…85% B…SenorBeef…136.66…88% B+
Ellis Dee…125.36…58% F…VarlosZ…122.21…75% C
VarlosZ…124.70…75% C…Ellis Dee…120.23…69% D+
Omniscient…115.58…93% A-…Hamlet…106.52…96% A
Chuck…114.08…92% A-…Rocket Surgery…103.08…82% B-
Mike…104.64…72% C-…Chuck…98.13…82% B-
Hamlet…103.32…91% A-…Omniscient…96.83…93% A
Dalej42…102.56…81% B-…Jules Andre…95.71…86% B
Jules Andre…97.50…84% B…Dalej42…90.69…89% B+
Rocket Surgery…78.28…77% C…Mike…87.89…80% C+
Wow, my week 2 in this league suuuuuuuuucked.
I’m willing to move Ronnie Brown and your choice of Tony Gonzalez/Kellen Winslow for a better TE and a worse (but still valuable) RB.
I got my ass ripped up by Austin Collie, who was a damn waiver claim last week, who I almost picked up myself. I could’ve single handedly swung the game like 50 or 60 points if I had picked him up.
Varlos is #1 in the league but it’s some BS! He’s head the least number of points scored against him the league. The top scores are 337, 286, 273, 271, 271… so I’ve got a decent lead. But that’s the way the matchups work sometimes. But I get the play Varlos in week 4 and rightfully retake my lead. Whee.
Hamlet got hosed by getting the most points scored against him, and starts 1-2 despite the second highest score.
Pending trade: New New York Benders gives up Darren McFadden, Overly Sentimental gives up Brandon Marshall.
The only problem with those numbers, and they’re awesome to see, is that they basically reward owners who forgot to draft a bench. You’ll get a perfect GM score if your bench is full of scrubs and you had no choices to make each week So auctioning “Stars and Scrubs” and failing on picking good scrubs gives you the best chance at acing the GM score. Which. interestingly enough, is very easiest possible draft outcome (meaning it takes the least actual knowledge/talent to achieve).
Or, on the reverse, you could draft a decently balanced team and completely fucking whiff on every single possible start/sit choice all season, like me, and fail at everything. Fun times! It’s amazing how different fantasy sports are if you don’t have time to obsess over your teams.
SDMB Auction Draft FF - Week 3
…General…Head…Season…General…Head
Week 3…Manager…Coach…Average…Manager…Coach
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Ellis Dee…137.96…76% C…SenorBeef…126.39…89% B+
Rocket Surgery…121.84…82% B-…Ellis Dee…126.14…72% C-
Chuck…116.94…96% A…VarlosZ…115.25…81% B-
Hamlet…110.34…74% C…Rocket Surgery…109.33…82% B-
Jules Andre…107.40…94% A…Hamlet…107.79…88% B+
SenorBeef…105.84…91% A-…Chuck…104.40…87% B+
VarlosZ…101.32…95% A…Jules Andre…99.61…89% B+
Dalej42…100.50…90% A-…Omniscient…96.67…94% A
Mike…97.98…92% A-…Dalej42…93.96…90% B+
Omniscient…96.34…94% A…Mike…91.25…84% B
It sounds like you’re talking about the coaching grade, not the GM score. The GM score is expressed as a point total, and it is calculated as your best possible starting roster each week, as if you were allowed to go back in time and put all your highest scorers in the starting spots each week. Your bench is completely ignored in your GM score. Because this number reflects your best possible point total, it is a pretty decent measure of how well you draft, trade and manage the waiver wire.
You’re thinking of the Head Coach grade, which is expressed as a percentage grade and is a wholly separate thing that doesn’t really reflect much of anything except either a) how well you guess the future, or b) how much scrubbier your bench is compared to your starters, as you point out. That’s why it’s a secondary column and not sorted.
If you’re thinking that these numbers devalue a strategy wherein you assemble a complete team of above-average players and then spend your weeks trying to guess the better starter for every position, I say yes, yes it does devalue that strategy. I’d even go so far as to say these numbers demonstrate why that strategy is a bad one.
The GM score is how good you are at amassing point-scorers on your roster. The coaching score is how good you are at picking which guys on your roster to actually play that week.
<— League champ good sir.
You have scored the most possible points of anyone in the league so far, so I don’t think you can lay claim to filling your team with above average guys. You have the highest scorers in the league on your team. In the GM rankings, a team of above average guys would be middle of the pack at best.
Well, in as far as draft strategy, I do essentially the opposite of stars and scrubs - I fill my roster with a ton of third/fourth rounder type players. I’ve scored a lot because Foster and Best went nuts but in terms of draft strategy I’m consistently spending the least on my most expensive players. I don’t know what else you could do in an auction format that would be the strategy you’re describing.
Yeah, I had that backwards, whoops.
Nothing. I’m getting intent and results confused. As in, if you end up with several superstars, obviously you’re not playing the “everyone is above-average” strategy. But the difference that had me confused is the idea of drafting everyone who was projected to be above-average with the hope that a few of them develop into superstars.
I don’t think anyone starts out with the intention to land a bunch of above average players and purely guess on matchups. But what often does show in this league is when you do a stars and scrubs strategy, you’re more likely to end up picking the right roster - your stars will fill the roster slots and your scrubs aren’t likely to do better than them. This leads to a good coach grade, because you usually get the right people in there to start.
The relative opposite of the stars and scrubs strategy is to try to get a lot of guys with upside for relatively cheap, and that’s generally what I do. I do have some viable bench players (Ronnie Brown, Dwayne Bowe, now Peyton Hillis, 2 good defenses) so I’m playing more of a guessing game than a player with stars and scrubs.
So I don’t think data in itself debunks a certain strategy, because I don’t really think anyone has a strategy of having equal and flat talent all the way across their roster. The closest you get to doing that in an auction league is IMO my general strategy, hence why I used myself as a counterpoint.
Yep.
The thought would be auction-specific, since in a snake draft you obviously want the best talent you can get with each pick. But in an auction, you could deliberately ignore the top tier talent in all positions in an effort to get second-tier talent across the board, including every bench spot, and then play matchups each week.
I don’t think that strategy would work based on the numbers presented. Most of the league is in the B coaching range, so your performance will be tightly tied to your max potential. If everyone on your team scores pretty well but not great, your max potential will be too low and you won’t be able to recover the ground through picking well.
That was my thinking, anyway. Real world results in this case (or FF in general) don’t tend to mirror the theoretical “perfect” case for thought experiments too well.
Varlos! Did you see Arian Foster just stab you in the face!?
FIRST PLACE BABY!
Looking how even the scoring is in this league again this year (I’m 100 points out ahead of everyone, but 2nd through 8th place is only seperated by 35 points), I have to say this is probably the most competant group of FF players I’ve ever played with, and it’s been an honor to dominate you all.
The only matchup left to be resolved this week is that Omni needs 8 points out of Randy Moss to beat Jules.
Oh, and I’ve got 4 awesome RBs and I can only start two. So I want to move one still. Arian Foster is probably not tradable unless you want to give me both a TE and WR upgrade, but I’m willing to trade Best, Ronnie Brown, or Peyton Hillis. Brown or Hillis could probably be had for an elite TE (gates/clark/maybe finley) but Best would probably require a little more - a TE and a WR or something. I’m willing to give you Gonzo as a TE, or if we swap WRs, I can send back Owens or Bowe or whatever. Look over the roster and we’ll feel it out.
Anyway, send me any offer you can think of. I may put out a few myself.