Sorry guys, I’m afraid I’m going to have to drop out. I have another in-person live draft I have to run at the same time, and I learned last year I can’t run a draft and do an auction at the same time. I apologize for the late notice. The reason I waited so long was that I was trying to get our other draft date/time changed but I could not. My team is Hey There Fancypants. I can’t see an option to drop out on the Yahoo site, does the commish have to kick me out?
My apologies once again. Let me know if a spot opens up next year, I definitely enjoyed this league with the auction format and the depth of players drafted.
We’ve had some turnover. I may reorganize divisions along some logical line if we’re going to rejigger anyway. I like the idea of grouping based on average finish over the years. Any suggestions?
I thought I’d have a problem with going by merit (assuming you’d bunch the top players together and the poorer players together), but this league is for fun - and giving the poor performers last year a chance to beat up on each other and compete for a playoff spot is actually a great idea. I like it.
I’m essentially against what amount to arbitrary or random divisions - I’d rather just get rid of divisions. I wanted to give them a try when yahoo allowed them, but after a couple of years of essentially random divisions I decided meh.
But if we were to use the divisions in some logical way, it could be very cool.
If we reorganized along some logical lines, it could be interesting. If we organized by average finish since the start, and did it again next year (or just do it based on last year’s ratings) then it’s interesting for competition.
The top division - full of the 5 best - becomes prestigious, and the bottom division becomes shameful or at least full of newbies. To win the top division requires you to beat the best the league has to offer, but at least 1 player from the bottom division will go to the playoffs, creating a parity of sorts.
It works even better if I set up the schedule so that everyone plays everyone in their division twice.
Geographic divisions make sense in real sports obviously for logistical reasons but I find them uncompelling for this. Team fandom is maybe a little more logical, but I’m guessing we’re a scattered bunch where there won’t be any clean solution there.
So anyway, I propose we take the average finish of each player and then order the divisions that way, with new players starting at the bottom.
I was completely indifferent to the method of organizing divisions until i read this.
If divisions are going to be created based on previous performance, then they should be selected in precisely the opposite way—in order to ensure that everyone has a similar strength of schedule. So, for example, one division would comprise the #1, #5, #9, #13, and #17 players; the next division would comprise #2, #6, #10, #14, and #18; and so on.
Firstly, i don’t think that the people who have finished near the bottom previously (and i’m one of them) should have the benefit of playing a “weaker” schedule and thus getting a better chance to make the playoffs. I’m happy to compete against people who have done well.
Second, to be quite honest, i do this for fun. I do my best to pick a strong team, i make trades, i keep on top of my roster from one week to the next, and i make a concerted effort to win each week, but in the end i really don’t care where i finish. It’s just about a bit of fun.
I know, Senorbeef, that part of the whole game for you is trash-talking about how great you are and how you deserved to win because your team consistently scored the most points and how you’ve been in the top three (or whatever) every year and how awesome is that.
But that doesn’t interest me very much, and if you’re going to have an “All the awesome guys” division and a “Point and laugh at the losers division,” you can find someone else to take my team.
Well that’s unnecesarily dramatic. Threatning to quit the league a few days before the draft because - what, exactly? Being in a meaningless and random division works for you, but being in a division with people who’ve performed similarly to you is a grave injustice?
I can’t imagine any way of organizing divisions, including a “most likely to be a child molester” vote and making the top division, that could really justify quitting over it.
Could someone make a case for arbitrary or semi-arbitrary (like vaguely geographical) divisions? Because if they’re meaningless I’d rather just lose them altogether.
And before you accuse me of just wanting to gloat, I proposed a similar system in the dynasty league, even specifically mentioning the prestige of the top division, when I finished in last place that year. I just think it’s a good idea that makes the league more meaningful. I don’t need it to gloat. I’m going to do that anyway.
My suggestion for arranging the divisions is precisely the opposite of “meaningless and random.” I would sort divisions with a view to giving everyone in the league a roughly equal strength of schedule, based on prior order of finishing. It is based on exactly the same idea as your arrangement (i.e., on past performance), but is actually more fair to everyone.
As for getting rid of divisions altogether, i’d be perfectly fine with that too.
I thought it was pointless then (and I was the league champ at the time) and I think it’s pointless now.
But good news: my Tuesday class was just cancelled, so if you want to move the draft back up to the original start time it’s no longer a problem for me.