** SDMB live coverage thread, 2nd POTUS debate, 10/09/2016 **

Nah, it’s bullshit. Last I checked, Canada is still an independent country.

It wasn’t the curb-stomping I was hoping for, but Trump is still on the ropes. The next couple of video releases will bury him.

MSNBC is pointing out that Trump appeared angry, stood behind Hillary, paced around the room. He clearly lost the visual part of the debate.

With all those Canadians making a run for the border for quality health care I’m surprised Trump hasn’t suggested building a wall up north.

In regards to winning, if one side lies throughout the debate and the other doesn’t, the lying side loses regardless of whether they met our “personality” expectations.

I’m only undecided in the sense that I don’t like either of them, but Clinton kicked the everloving hell out of him. And I didn’t think that was the case in the first debate.

As I said, Trump landed some jabs. But she landed haymakers. And then pulled out a sledgehammer and was about to hit him with it, but he said, “Let me. I’m really amazing at this, this’ll be the greatest thing you’ll ever see.” and caved his skull in with it. Clinton was duly impressed.

Pence tweets congrats to Trump on a “debate win.”

I don’t think lies are as important to the general electorate as we would like them to be.

Apparently he just sent a tweet congratulating him on the debate.

The Cuban Missile Crisis was about having a missile base a few minutes from Washington DC which is an extremely destabilizing situation, in the middle of the cold war. It’s a tricky, volatile situation that required a response.

Syria is nothing in comparison. Not a compelling national interest. Not a threat to world stability. Why are we anxious to restart cold war tensions over it?

Awww, looks like Mike and Donald have made up.

Of course, my earlier post is now invalid. :rolleyes:

Too extreme a reaction, a scattering of minefields ought to be enough.

Clinton was correct about Trump regarding the steel from China, Like his ties, he has not minded much that he sent American jobs overseas.

Sigh. I’m not going to hold this against Pence should he run in the future, I’m still pretty high on the guy, but an exit would be nice about now.

Gawd, Kellyanne Conway is on MSNBC now. Now that’s a person I’d hate to debate with; she’s able to twist anything to fit a narrative.

That’s her job. She’s actually better at that part of it than Clinton’s team. Obama had good people for that too. Who was that blonde lady he had as his spokesperson during the 2012 campaign? She was shameless.

Jimmy Carville(?) says she can talk the legs off a table.

Nothing “Bizarro” about Hillary continuing Obama’s Neocon Light FP.

That said, where did all the Iraq war protesters go? I was one and to this day continue to disagree with what is being done in the MENA region. Just seems like PNAC has gone underground and resurfaced as Dems.

Right. Because the mess in the Middle East is Putin’s fault. :rolleyes:

Why? He’s a religious fanatic and homophobe who thinks gay people need to be rehabilitated, and he wants to heap totally unnecessary requirements on women for abortions, both before and after the procedures.

One of the 538 guys pointed out that it’s not Trump looming, it’s Clinton (wisely, and apparently as her husband famously did) positioning herself between him and the camera to make it look like he is looming.