You jumped on ok11 right after I did, with a decent reason…then unvoted and immediately revoted after JSexton did.
Then you switched with the tide when you returned and voted JSexton…with what feels to me like a flimsy reason. He didn’t misrepresent you THAT badly, considering the way you phrased it–you’d have been a lot better off to have phrased that differently than with a tag, because it was the late uncertainty you expressed that seems to have stuck in people’s minds.
Hey guys, sorry I COMPLETELY forgot I was going to be out of town for a few days when I signed up. Fortunately, today is a federal holiday, so I should have plenty of undisturbed time to try to catch up and if I’m not up to the task, I’ll request a sub out and let someone else do the catching up instead.
But, as some have pointed out, either a pro or anti Town role may have decided to get it out there on the first day before he was in danger so that he would have a better chance of being believed.
Let’s make sure we get it right – I voted for ok11 with a decent reason. When she explained it, I realized my misunderstanding and unvoted her. Then JSexton put out his ploy, and I quite reasonably put my vote back on ok11. Once the ploy was revealed, I…well, hell, I didn’t know what to make of it – until JSexton tried misrepresenting what I said, then I called him on it and voted for him.
Yeah, I really went along with tide there, didn’t I? Oh…wait…his reveal was at a few minutes after 7pm, and I voted at bit after 11am…my work hours (when I’m online) are…what was it again? Oh yeah…11-7. If I were here when JSexton put that out there, then it wouldn’t have mattered a damn bit who else had voted.
Flimsy? Considering the fact that I’m piling up votes, I’d have to say that the misrepresentation was quite bad. Can you honestly say that when someone misrepresents what you said, that you’d let them skate on it?
Unvote Blaster Master
My wacko theory has been shot down, so never mind.
I’m going to again
Vote JSexton because, thinking about it–if he doesn’t get lynched today, he won’t ever. This will be a point towards his townie cred…a good reasonf for a scum to do such an absurd idea. And I’m really not seeing why Hal is so suspicious.
I’d like to ask everyone to pay attention to how the vote is evolving and ask yourselves what it might mean. I’ll lay it out: at 9pm last night we had this vote count (post #768):
JSexton : 4 (BS PI, Zsofia, Santo Rugger, Rapier42)
Zeriel : 2 (Kat, amrussell)
ok11 : 2 (Zeriel, Hal Briston)
Blaster Master : 1 (Pedescribe)
Hal Briston : 1 (Oredigger77)
I’m going to be focusing on **Hal **and JSexton’s counts here.
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[li]Pedescribe then votes for JSexton, taking him to 5, but then unvotes after JSexton explains himself. So he’s back to 4.[/li][li]Then I post my review and vote for Hal, making it JSexton 4, Hal 2.[/li][li]amrussell then chimes in with a solid post on why he thinks JSexton is probably town. To my read, the steam is beginning to come off of the JSexton train a bit(although Zeriel is still pressing him).[/li][li]Then Hal himself votes for JSexton, making it 5-2. But Santo then unvotes JSexton right after, returning it to 4-2.[/li][li]Zeriel then votes for Hal, making it 4-3 with some momentum on the Hal train.[/li][li]Then Pleonast votes for JSexton, taking Hal out of immediate danger.[/li][/ul]
Now, my vote is on Hal and I find him to be a little suspicious, so I am looking at this with that filter. But I think everyone should think about this sequence and ask themselves what they think it means. At the very least, it will be very interesting to look back at this if one of them is banned and we get their alignment, because I detect some definite maneuvering.
Hmm, how’s that been working out for him? Assuming his survival conditions are as he’s outlined, I’d say he would have had a much better chance of surviving toDay if he had kept mum than he does now.
Of course, whether an anti-Town Nanook could reasonably have predicted that he’d have a better chance of surviving longer if he kept mum is another question. But given the Town’s track record of lynching anyone who sticks out from the pack, I’d be inclined not to take the risk if I were scum.
I’ve noticed this trend as well, although looking at it from another filter. It does feel like there’s a bit of machining of the votes (obviously, I have no concrete proof on this, either, it’s just a gut-check). If both of these guys turn up town or PFK, we won’t have much of a result. Pedescribe also just voted for JSexton, putting us at 7-3, and likely saving Hal, if the Day ends within the next day or two (short of any massive revelations).
If Hal turns up scum, and JSexton town, there does seem to be good reason to look at which voters have been key in keeping Hal out of danger. Don’t discount the possibility of JSexton being scum, Hal being town, and the vote-push for Hal being a semi-scum oriented one in order to provide a release valve for JSexton.
Yes, but I don’t expect anyone to vote based on vague allegations made by me. I do expect people to watch the interplay and see what comes of it.
This is true, to a point. However, it’s my experience that the vast majority of scum have things to do at night. Even if there’s one totally vanilla scum, that’s generally the one sent to do the kill. Taking zero actions at night is a pretty good indicator of townieness.
You can protest, but that big disclaimer at the end seems totally unnecessary to me. Yes, we all know what bussing is, me included. So why did you feel the need to include a disclaimer?
So, in your opinion, not one single scum chimed in during that entire exchange. Not one.
Interesting.
Here’s a hypothetical for you: Say I get lynched today. With the definite knowledge of my alignment, will you still consider all five players town?
Regarding NBC: I’m still inclined to think of him as town, and I’m not in favor of allowing him to be modkilled. However, if it’s to be a “second lynch”, then it should be done via majority. I think we should all state our opinions on whether NBC should be sentenced to die today via his drawback, and vote in, say, yellow. If a majority says aye, then we test him. If there is no majority toDay, then we take another vote toMorrow. Does that seem like a reasonable plan?
I think you should have more faith in Town. To me he seemed like a player ready to bet (town or scum) - and I don’t see him getting any “townie cred” right now.
If he isn’t lynched… I don’t think he can take a lot of risk before everyone will remember his little trick and go for him again.
And just IMHO (this is not to Pede in particular at all) - isn’t part of the fun that someone goes out on a limb and the game is suddenly taking a new turn?
It’s Nanook, not NBC.We lynched NBC yesterday on the general understanding that Nookie’s fate would come today. Should we not reach a majority opinion either way, are you going to vote for him today in order to give him another Night to do whatever he does?
Yes on double-lynching Nanook
Could we choose another color - that one is really hard to read!
Yeesh, is it really 7-3? I’m probably supposed to vote for Hal here, but the trouble is that my read on him is leaning town. I don’t really want to see him get lynched, especially since there’s a chance that he’s a power role, and I am not. Yes, that’s a claim: straight-up vanilla. I don’t see me talking my way out of this, since even pedescribe has given up on me.
Look at Shadowfacts’ timeline. It is pretty interesting, doubly so if I’m wrong about Hal. Look closely at Zeriel from here on out, as Zeriel feels too bloodthirsty to be town. Watch out for Pleonast. Pleo’s analysis is more lopsided than I’d expect. Beyond that, look to the lurkers. It’s a good bet that they are happy to sit back and watch us tear each other up.
Ban Zeriel, just so my vote is in a potentially useful place. Good luck, and my apologies.
PPE: Sorry, I obv meant Nanook, not NBC. My proposed plan was to mimic votes without actually casting them. Without a majority that wants him dead, I don’t think he should be killed, just like a regular lynch.I’ll put down my no on double lynching Nanook now.
I don’t think I’d OMGUS someone who misrepresented me as mildly as JSexton did, no. Hell, my performance in this game is my cite–despite my perception of being misrepresented I haven’t taken anyone to task for it because that crap happens.
Yeah, that’s quite a pile. JSexton is piling up votes (and Og only knows what the crap he is), you’re just getting a few suspicious people looking at you.
Taken separately, your actions are reasonable. Taken together, there’s a pattern that I frankly don’t like.
Ugh, that IS a horrible color. How about magenta?
Dawn + 50 was at the top of the hour. I reckon you all deserve a vote count.JSexton : 6 (BS PI, Zsofia, Rapier42, Hal Briston, Pleonast, Pedescribe)
Hal Briston : 3 (Oredigger77, ShadowFacts, Zeriel)
Zeriel : 3 (Kat, amrussell, JSexton)
Blaster Master : 2 (ok11, Fretful Porpentine)
Zsofia : 2 (Total Lost, Hero from Sector 7G)The sun continues to shine happily down, and the Day continues on its merry way.
I like that color 
As for Nanook - I think we should keep him alive for a while before just taking him out.
So I’m for ** let us have one vote on Nanook toDay **
Let Nanook live. If he was scum/pfk he could have just as easily got a trickle of votes every day simply by playing suspiciously and not handing us a bubbly cauldron of WIFOM.
I didn’t vote Nanook yesterDay - so I could vote for him toDay. But I’m in a time zone where I’m going to sleep in a hour and I have a meeting all day tomorrow. I’m going to check in… but I would not be a safe bet - sorry!
Because dealing in absolutes is generally scummy. Had I said “If ok11 comes up as scum, then JSexton is town”, then I would expect to be called out for it.