My bad. I thought you were Rackensack. You’re certainly still in contention.
For second!
Hey, I intend to hold on to second for all I’m worth - I like the view from up here.
Unfortunately, catching you seems out of the question, Munch. My team has been rolling the last two months or so, but yours has been even hotter. Looking back to July 7, I’m up 17 points in the standings, but you’re up 19.5!
I mean, even if Ichiro! keeps playing like Marquis Grissom, and Marquis Grissom keeps playing like Tom Goodwin… I don’t see how it’s possible to catch you. Not with that pitching staff.
SDMB Keeper
Overall Points
Rank Team R HR RBI SB AVG W SV K ERA WHIP TOTAL
1 Stockholm Sluggers 12 12 11 9 2.5 12 10 12 12 12 104.5
2 Schrodingers Bat 9 9 12 10 9 6 11 11 8 8.5 93.5
3 Logan Square Bombers 4 7 7 4 5 8.5 6.5 8 11 10 71
4 Les Miserables 3 3 6 5 8 11 9 7 9 5.5 66.5
5 Accidental Tourists 8 6 2 2 10 10 2 6 7 11 64
5 Mr. Ecks 22 5 10 10 1 4 2 12 10 3 7 64
7 Rocky Peaks 6 8 8 3 11 4.5 8 3 6 5.5 63
8 Continental Drifters 11 11 9 6 12 3 6.5 1 1 1 61.5
9 Zevs Wolves 10 4 4 12 6 7 3 5 4 3 58
10 Bolshevik Revolution 1 2 3 7.5 1 8.5 5 9 10 8.5 55.5
11 Flys Sox 2 1 1 11 7 4.5 1 4 5 4 40.5
12 Baltimore Weirdos 7 5 5 7.5 2.5 1 4 2 2 2 38
Overall Statistics
Rank Team R HR RBI SB AVG W SV K ERA WHIP
1 Stockholm Sluggers 760 212 729 98 .274 86 90 1001 3.54 1.20
2 Schrodingers Bat 734 199 793 99 .285 67 102 969 3.79 1.27
3 Logan Square Bombers 671 181 668 70 .276 76 72 902 3.60 1.25
4 Les Miserables 666 165 663 73 .283 78 84 900 3.78 1.30
5 Accidental Tourists 732 178 615 63 .291 77 32 861 3.88 1.24
5 Mr. Ecks 22 705 200 724 49 .275 62 104 952 4.21 1.29
7 Rocky Peaks 713 196 702 67 .292 65 82 774 4.07 1.30
8 Continental Drifters 751 208 712 74 .297 63 72 619 4.55 1.39
9 Zevs Wolves 738 168 644 117 .277 72 51 857 4.17 1.35
10 Bolshevik Revolution 650 159 639 76 .271 76 67 911 3.67 1.27
11 Flys Sox 664 152 592 105 .278 65 9 803 4.11 1.32
12 Baltimore Weirdos 716 169 654 76 .274 59 57 688 4.50 1.37
thru games of Sunday Sep 7, 2003
Melting Pot
Overall Points
Rank Team R 2B HR RBI SB AVG OBP W SV K ERA WHIP K/BB TOTAL
1 WLs Theocracy 9 9 9 9 2 9 7 4 7 8 7 8.5 3.5 92
2 The Sleepers 7 8 5 5 6 6.5 9 7.5 9 9 7 6.5 6 91.5
3 Winnowills Winners 8 7 8 8 8 4 3 9 3 6 9 4.5 3.5 81
4 The Saskodies 6 6 6 7 9 5 2 2 5 3 7 6.5 2 66.5
5 Chaosophers 5 1 3 3 4.5 8 5 6 2 4 5 8.5 7 62
6 Highlanders 3 5 1 2 1 2 6 7.5 8 7 3 2.5 8 56
7 Rally Monkey 4 2 7 6 4.5 6.5 8 5 1 2 1 1 1 49
8 Saskatoon Locusts 2 3 2 1 3 1 4 3 6 5 2 4.5 9 45.5
9 Portland Expos 1 4 4 4 7 3 1 1 4 1 4 2.5 5 41.5
Overall Statistics
Rank Team R 2B HR RBI SB AVG OBP W SV K ERA WHIP K/BB
1 WLs Theocracy 746 290 185 711 59 .297 .352 68 69 826 3.91 1.28 2.29
2 The Sleepers 667 277 154 621 80 .281 .359 75 75 837 3.91 1.29 2.37
3 Winnowills Winners 682 264 174 686 93 .273 .340 80 22 797 3.83 1.32 2.29
4 The Saskodies 659 238 157 649 94 .274 .336 59 48 750 3.91 1.29 2.22
5 Chaosophers 634 205 147 544 71 .287 .349 74 19 784 3.99 1.28 2.50
6 Highlanders 609 229 125 542 55 .265 .350 75 72 798 4.40 1.33 2.51
7 Rally Monkey 623 208 172 647 71 .281 .358 71 8 705 5.17 1.47 1.67
8 Saskatoon Locusts 588 213 136 530 60 .260 .348 63 56 790 4.48 1.32 2.63
9 Portland Expos 550 217 152 597 82 .266 .324 53 24 610 4.22 1.33 2.36
thru games of Sunday Sep 7, 2003
SDMB_1
Overall Points
Rank Team R HR SB FPCT OBP SLG W SV K TB ERA WHIP TOTAL
1 Shelbyvillians 13 11 10 6 8.5 10.5 10.5 12 13 7 11.5 12.5 125.5
2 Out On Waveland 11 13 7 11 4 13 8.5 2.5 10 11 13 10 114
3 Rickeys Residue 10 12 12 2 10 7 5 13 9 9 11.5 11 111.5
4 E. Wilson All-Stars 8 9 1 8.5 13 8 8.5 11 12 10 9.5 12.5 111
5 WLs Blue Sox 12 10 6 8.5 8.5 10.5 10.5 7 8 5 8 6 100
6 Isotopes 7 5 9 8.5 11 6 7 6 11 2 6 7.5 86
7 Saskatoon Yaksmen 4 2.5 8 12 7 3 1 10 1 13 9.5 9 80
8 Winnowills Winners 9 8 13 8.5 2 2 3 8 5 8 5 5 76.5
9 Rackensack Diamonds 5 7 3 1 5 12 13 2.5 3 6 4 4 65.5
10 Baltimore Weirdos 6 1 11 13 6 1 4 9 4 3 2 2 62
11 Blakes Bears 3 6 5 3.5 12 9 2 5 2 12 1 1 61.5
12 Lake Merritt Marlins 1 2.5 4 5 3 4 12 4 6 4 7 7.5 60
13 Debs Halos 2 4 2 3.5 1 5 6 1 7 1 3 3 38.5
Overall Statistics
Rank Team R HR SB FPCT OBP SLG W SV K TB ERA WHIP
1 Shelbyvillians 971 233 108 .985 .359 .479 76 84 1080 1765 3.64 1.23
2 Out On Waveland 888 254 92 .987 .348 .486 74 42 941 1593 3.59 1.28
3 Rickeys Residue 884 247 121 .981 .360 .469 67 102 928 1694 3.64 1.24
4 E. Wilson All-Stars 858 213 75 .986 .366 .476 74 81 1073 1606 3.82 1.23
5 WLs Blue Sox 935 232 91 .986 .359 .479 76 68 883 1787 4.01 1.32
6 Isotopes 828 202 99 .986 .362 .464 72 54 972 1924 4.05 1.30
7 Saskatoon Yaksmen 760 183 93 .988 .356 .444 56 76 695 1369 3.82 1.29
8 Winnowills Winners 862 211 129 .986 .340 .442 64 69 823 1761 4.11 1.34
9 Rackensack Diamonds 795 207 79 .980 .353 .480 80 42 710 1769 4.21 1.37
10 Baltimore Weirdos 824 180 113 .989 .355 .439 65 75 766 1827 4.70 1.39
11 Blakes Bears 743 204 82 .983 .363 .478 62 49 696 1584 4.98 1.43
12 Lake Merritt Marlins 699 183 81 .984 .343 .451 79 44 839 1796 4.04 1.30
13 Debs Halos 734 195 76 .983 .338 .458 69 40 855 1959 4.44 1.38
thru games of Sunday Sep 7, 2003
Didja notice I’ve benched Ichiro for the last 5 days? I’ve friggin’ benched Ichiro, a MVP contender (before this craptastic slump). But seriously, what’s up with my pitching?!? Halladay pitched 10 shutout innings on Saturday. How can I argue with that? I was really worried about my staff around the All Star break - they just weren’t getting it done. I was ready to bail on a bunch of them.
But now I could end up with both Cy Young winners (Halladay and Prior), although it’ll probably be Loaiza and Schmidt (I refuse to believe a reliever will win one).
Believe it.
Well Fewl, we’re really putting a race together over in Melting Pot, eh? Good luck to ya.
Yep, we are. Because my damn pitching has fallen apart. The pitching I tried to bolster by weakening my hitting – who was it I traded for Mulder?
Of course, in SDMB_1, the opposite has happened. I tried to strengthen my offence by trading pitching.
“The best-laid plans…”
The trade was Manny Ramirez and Kenny Rogers for Mark Mulder and Shannon Stewart.
Weird how these things work out sometimes… Stewart’s outplayed Ramirez, and Mulder’s gone.
Yeah, that was it. I’m not complaining, Wilson, just noting that I paved another stretch of road with my good intentions.
Well hey Fewl don’t take all the credit. Remember that I brought in Colon and Lowe to buff up my rotation and improve my dismal pitching stats. And Frank Thomas and Alex Sanchez to bolster my offense.
Oh and all my motivational speeches to my players. I’m sure those had an immeasurable impact.
Hey, WL, I didn’t say I paved the whole road.
SDMB Keeper
Overall Points
Rank Team R HR RBI SB AVG W SV K ERA WHIP TOTAL
1 Stockholm Sluggers 12 12 10 9 1.5 12 10 12 11.5 12 102
2 Schrodingers Bat 9 8 12 10 8.5 4 11 11 8 7.5 89
3 Logan Square Bombers 4 7 7 4 7 8.5 5.5 8 10 9.5 70.5
3 Mr. Ecks 22 6 10 11 1 5.5 2.5 12 10 5 7.5 70.5
5 Les Miserables 3 3 6 6.5 8.5 8.5 9 7 9 5.5 66
6 Rocky Peaks 5 9 8 3 11 6 8 3 6 5.5 64.5
7 Accidental Tourists 8 6 2 2 10 10 2 6 7 11 64
8 Continental Drifters 11 11 9 6.5 12 2.5 7 1 2 1.5 63.5
9 Bolshevik Revolution 1 2 3 5 1.5 11 5.5 9 11.5 9.5 59
10 Zevs Wolves 10 4 4 12 5.5 7 3 5 3 3 56.5
11 Baltimore Weirdos 7 5 5 8 3 1 4 2 1 1.5 37.5
12 Flys Sox 2 1 1 11 4 5 1 4 4 4 37
Overall Statistics
Rank Team R HR RBI SB AVG W SV K ERA WHIP
1 Stockholm Sluggers 791 219 760 105 .273 88 100 1046 3.53 1.20
2 Schrodingers Bat 760 202 816 107 .283 67 106 999 3.81 1.28
3 Logan Square Bombers 709 191 715 77 .279 79 72 942 3.61 1.25
3 Mr. Ecks 22 744 212 761 52 .277 64 108 979 4.11 1.28
5 Les Miserables 698 169 694 82 .283 79 88 914 3.75 1.29
6 Rocky Peaks 742 204 731 70 .292 71 83 826 4.02 1.29
7 Accidental Tourists 758 184 640 63 .291 80 32 893 3.91 1.24
8 Continental Drifters 788 215 744 82 .298 64 76 650 4.50 1.38
9 Bolshevik Revolution 678 167 660 80 .273 81 72 967 3.53 1.25
10 Zevs Wolves 769 177 683 122 .277 72 51 857 4.17 1.35
11 Baltimore Weirdos 749 181 692 84 .275 63 60 708 4.54 1.38
12 Flys Sox 691 159 613 110 .276 70 9 842 4.14 1.33
thru games of Sunday Sep 14, 2003
Melting Pot
Overall Points
Rank Team R 2B HR RBI SB AVG OBP W SV K ERA WHIP K/BB TOTAL
1 WLs Theocracy 9 9 9 9 2 9 6 5 7 9 9 8 4 95
2 The Sleepers 7 8 4.5 5 6.5 6 8.5 7 9 8 6 6 5 86.5
3 Winnowills Winners 8 7 8 8 8 4 3 9 3 5 7 3.5 3 76.5
4 The Saskodies 6 6 6 7 9 5 2 2 5 3 8 8 2 69
5 Chaosophers 5 1 3 1.5 4 8 4 6 2 4 5 8 8 59.5
6 Highlanders 3 5 1 3 1 3 7 8 8 7 3 2 7 58
7 Rally Monkey 4 2 7 6 5 7 8.5 4 1 2 1 1 1 49.5
8 Saskatoon Locusts 2 3 2 1.5 3 1 5 3 6 6 2 5 9 48.5
9 Portland Expos 1 4 4.5 4 6.5 2 1 1 4 1 4 3.5 6 42.5
Overall Statistics
Rank Team R 2B HR RBI SB AVG OBP W SV K ERA WHIP K/BB
1 WLs Theocracy 774 300 193 749 64 .297 .352 74 72 871 3.81 1.28 2.32
2 The Sleepers 694 291 157 649 83 .279 .357 78 79 869 3.92 1.29 2.37
3 Winnowills Winners 717 271 182 713 97 .273 .339 82 22 818 3.86 1.32 2.27
4 The Saskodies 692 248 166 682 104 .274 .336 61 51 771 3.82 1.28 2.20
5 Chaosophers 660 215 154 567 73 .286 .348 76 20 813 3.96 1.28 2.49
6 Highlanders 651 242 133 569 58 .268 .354 80 77 852 4.35 1.34 2.43
7 Rally Monkey 656 216 177 666 75 .281 .357 71 8 722 5.20 1.47 1.68
8 Saskatoon Locusts 616 217 144 567 65 .261 .349 66 59 821 4.39 1.31 2.65
9 Portland Expos 565 228 157 616 83 .267 .326 55 25 630 4.18 1.32 2.39
thru games of Sunday Sep 14, 2003
SDMB_1
Overall Points
Rank Team R HR SB FPCT OBP SLG W SV K TB ERA WHIP TOTAL
1 Shelbyvillians 13 11 10 6 8 11 10 12 12 7 12 13 125
2 Rickeys Residue 10 12 12 2 9.5 7 6 13 10 9 11 11.5 113
3 Out On Waveland 11 13 7 11 4 12 7 3 9 12 13 10 112
4 E. Wilson All-Stars 8.5 8 1 8.5 13 8 9 11 13 10 10 11.5 111.5
5 WLs Blue Sox 12 10 6 8.5 9.5 10 11 7 8 8 8 6 104
6 Isotopes 7 6 9 8.5 11.5 6 8 6 11 1 6 7.5 87.5
7 Saskatoon Yaksmen 4 3 8 12 7 3 1 9 2 13 9 9 80
8 Winnowills Winners 8.5 7 13 8.5 2 1 4.5 8 5 4 5 5 71.5
9 Rackensack Diamonds 5 9 3 1 5 13 13 1.5 3 6 4 3.5 67
10 Baltimore Weirdos 6 1 11 13 6 2 3 10 4 3 2 2 63
11 Lake Merritt Marlins 1 2 5 5 3 4 12 4 6 5 7 7.5 61.5
12 Blakes Bears 3 5 4 3.5 11.5 9 2 5 1 11 1 1 57
13 Debs Halos 2 4 2 3.5 1 5 4.5 1.5 7 2 3 3.5 39
Overall Statistics
Rank Team R HR SB FPCT OBP SLG W SV K TB ERA WHIP
1 Shelbyvillians 1013 250 117 .985 .359 .482 78 91 1126 1842 3.60 1.23
2 Rickeys Residue 920 255 131 .981 .360 .468 72 103 975 1760 3.64 1.24
3 Out On Waveland 922 265 97 .987 .346 .483 74 45 961 1612 3.59 1.28
4 E. Wilson All-Stars 895 219 77 .986 .366 .475 77 84 1128 1685 3.79 1.24
5 WLs Blue Sox 974 242 94 .986 .360 .480 81 69 918 1831 3.95 1.32
6 Isotopes 867 211 107 .986 .363 .465 76 56 1019 2000 4.04 1.30
7 Saskatoon Yaksmen 794 190 102 .988 .357 .443 60 77 738 1421 3.82 1.29
8 Winnowills Winners 895 216 133 .986 .338 .437 70 71 850 1867 4.08 1.34
9 Rackensack Diamonds 846 220 83 .980 .355 .485 84 42 752 1855 4.29 1.37
10 Baltimore Weirdos 854 187 122 .989 .356 .440 68 82 796 1881 4.66 1.39
11 Lake Merritt Marlins 736 189 86 .984 .343 .452 83 48 869 1863 4.01 1.30
12 Blakes Bears 768 208 85 .983 .363 .476 65 50 719 1643 4.91 1.41
13 Debs Halos 767 201 79 .983 .336 .454 70 42 876 1995 4.39 1.37
thru games of Sunday Sep 14, 2003
SDMB Keeper
Overall Points
Rank Team R HR RBI SB AVG W SV K ERA WHIP TOTAL
1 Stockholm Sluggers 11 11 10 10 1 12 10.5 12 12 12 101.5
2 Schrodingers Bat 10 8 12 9 8.5 4 10.5 11 8 8.5 89.5
3 Mr. Ecks 22 7 10 11 1 5 3 12 10 5 7 71
4 Logan Square Bombers 4 7 7 4 7 9.5 5 8 10 8.5 70
5 Rocky Peaks 5 9 8 3 11 6.5 8 4 6 6 66.5
6 Accidental Tourists 8 6 2 2 10 11 2 7 7 11 66
7 Les Miserables 3 3 6 7 8.5 8 9 6 9 5 64.5
8 Continental Drifters 12 12 9 5.5 12 1.5 7 1 2 1.5 63.5
9 Bolshevik Revolution 1 1.5 3 5.5 2.5 9.5 6 9 11 10 59
10 Zevs Wolves 9 4 4 12 6 5 3 3 3 3 52
11 Flys Sox 2 1.5 1 11 4 6.5 1 5 4 4 40
12 Baltimore Weirdos 6 5 5 8 2.5 1.5 4 2 1 1.5 36.5
Overall Statistics
Rank Team R HR RBI SB AVG W SV K ERA WHIP
1 Stockholm Sluggers 826 225 791 111 .274 93 108 1119 3.44 1.19
2 Schrodingers Bat 798 208 857 110 .283 71 108 1041 3.77 1.26
3 Mr. Ecks 22 777 221 803 56 .277 67 110 1017 4.01 1.27
4 Logan Square Bombers 746 197 747 80 .280 83 72 988 3.64 1.26
5 Rocky Peaks 760 209 750 75 .292 73 85 859 4.00 1.29
6 Accidental Tourists 786 192 668 64 .290 84 32 927 3.83 1.23
7 Les Miserables 722 175 722 86 .283 80 89 925 3.75 1.30
8 Continental Drifters 829 228 780 83 .299 65 80 667 4.47 1.38
9 Bolshevik Revolution 703 171 681 83 .275 83 74 991 3.55 1.25
10 Zevs Wolves 797 184 705 123 .278 72 51 857 4.17 1.35
11 Flys Sox 713 171 643 114 .276 73 9 890 4.12 1.32
12 Baltimore Weirdos 775 185 717 89 .275 65 63 739 4.57 1.38
thru games of Sunday Sep 21, 2003
Melting Pot
Overall Points
Rank Team R 2B HR RBI SB AVG OBP W SV K ERA WHIP K/BB TOTAL
1 WLs Theocracy 9 9 9 9 3 9 6 5 7 8 7.5 7 4 92.5
2 The Sleepers 6 8 4.5 5 6.5 6 8.5 6 8.5 9 5 6 5 84
3 Winnowills Winners 8 7 8 8 8 4 2 8 3 5 7.5 3 3 74.5
4 The Saskodies 7 6 6 6 9 5 3 2 5 3 9 8 2 71
5 Chaosophers 5 1.5 3 1 4 8 4 7 2 4 6 9 8 62.5
6 Highlanders 3.5 5 1 3 1 2.5 7 9 8.5 7 2.5 2 6.5 58.5
7 Rally Monkey 3.5 1.5 7 7 5 7 8.5 4 1 2 1 1 1 49.5
8 Saskatoon Locusts 2 3 2 2 2 1 5 3 6 6 2.5 5 9 48.5
9 Portland Expos 1 4 4.5 4 6.5 2.5 1 1 4 1 4 4 6.5 44
Overall Statistics
Rank Team R 2B HR RBI SB AVG OBP W SV K ERA WHIP K/BB
1 WLs Theocracy 799 311 198 770 69 .295 .351 77 75 901 3.86 1.28 2.28
2 The Sleepers 725 305 165 681 85 .279 .357 79 81 910 4.02 1.29 2.41
3 Winnowills Winners 738 284 187 748 101 .272 .337 86 22 852 3.86 1.32 2.24
4 The Saskodies 728 260 166 701 115 .275 .338 64 54 802 3.76 1.27 2.20
5 Chaosophers 685 222 158 582 74 .283 .345 81 20 839 3.88 1.26 2.50
6 Highlanders 684 252 139 601 61 .268 .354 87 81 900 4.30 1.33 2.43
7 Rally Monkey 684 222 185 702 77 .281 .357 74 8 754 5.16 1.47 1.67
8 Saskatoon Locusts 639 227 150 593 68 .262 .350 72 60 869 4.30 1.30 2.69
9 Portland Expos 588 236 165 637 85 .268 .326 57 27 655 4.13 1.31 2.43
thru games of Sunday Sep 21, 2003
SDMB_1
Overall Points
Rank Team R HR SB FPCT OBP SLG W SV K TB ERA WHIP TOTAL
1 Shelbyvillians 13 11 10 7.5 10 13 10 12 12 8 13 13 132.5
2 E. Wilson All-Stars 9 8 1 10.5 13 9 9 10.5 13 10 10 12 115
3 Rickeys Residue 10 12 13 2 8.5 7 7 13 10 9 11 11 113.5
4 Out On Waveland 11 13 7 10.5 4 11.5 6 5 9 12 12 9.5 110.5
5 WLs Blue Sox 12 10 6 7.5 8.5 10 11 7 8 7 8 6 101
6 Isotopes 7 6 9 7.5 12 6 8 6 11 2 7 7.5 89
7 Saskatoon Yaksmen 4 3 8 12 6 3 1 9 2 13 9 9.5 79.5
8 Winnowills Winners 8 7 12 7.5 1.5 1 3.5 8 5 6 5 5 69.5
9 Baltimore Weirdos 6 1 11 13 7 2 3.5 10.5 4 4.5 2 2.5 67
10 Rackensack Diamonds 5 9 3 1 5 11.5 13 2 3 4.5 4 4 65
11 Lake Merritt Marlins 1 2 5 5 3 4 12 3 6 3 6 7.5 57.5
12 Blakes Bears 2 5 4 3.5 11 8 2 4 1 11 1 1 53.5
13 Debs Halos 3 4 2 3.5 1.5 5 5 1 7 1 3 2.5 38.5
Overall Statistics
Rank Team R HR SB FPCT OBP SLG W SV K TB ERA WHIP
1 Shelbyvillians 1065 258 121 .986 .361 .483 82 94 1176 1887 3.53 1.22
2 E. Wilson All-Stars 929 231 78 .987 .365 .477 81 87 1177 1753 3.73 1.23
3 Rickeys Residue 956 264 137 .981 .359 .467 76 103 1012 1815 3.66 1.24
4 Out On Waveland 959 277 102 .987 .346 .482 74 53 992 1669 3.64 1.29
5 WLs Blue Sox 1014 252 100 .986 .359 .479 85 69 950 1888 3.92 1.31
6 Isotopes 909 217 112 .986 .364 .465 79 59 1050 2054 4.03 1.30
7 Saskatoon Yaksmen 830 203 104 .988 .356 .446 62 79 773 1479 3.84 1.29
8 Winnowills Winners 925 227 136 .986 .338 .437 72 71 885 1922 4.05 1.33
9 Baltimore Weirdos 886 193 125 .989 .357 .441 72 87 821 1934 4.60 1.38
10 Rackensack Diamonds 885 232 84 .980 .353 .482 88 43 786 1934 4.24 1.35
11 Lake Merritt Marlins 772 194 93 .984 .343 .449 87 48 903 1950 4.04 1.30
12 Blakes Bears 792 215 87 .983 .363 .475 67 50 751 1714 4.85 1.40
13 Debs Halos 800 208 82 .983 .338 .456 73 42 909 2106 4.52 1.38
thru games of Sunday Sep 21, 2003
… about the Melting Pot league.
Since we are talking about making this a keeper league starting with next year, and I’ve never been part of a keeper league before, I thought I’d look over everybody’s roster and decide for you who you would keep if we were doing three keepers after this season. Just to get an idea of what to expect, what quality would be left, what positions would be kept, etc.
Of course, these are just my best guesses, and I’d love to hear feedback from you if you disagree with who I picked for you (or for anyone else) to keep.
And anyone else who wants to comment, like the owners from the other keeper league, feel free. You can figure out the league format from Fatwater Fewl’s posts above.
I’m not really asking anyone to give away strategy secrets… wait, I guess I am asking, but that’s not the whole point of this. I wanted to see what it would be like, and I thought I’d share.
I assumed a three year total keep of a player, so older players weren’t heavily penalized. I also did absolutely no checking about contract status/free agency, which could be critical since this league is AL only.
WLs Theocracy
Keepers: Nomar, Vernon Wells, Johan Santana
Close calls: Tim Hudson, Eric Chavez, Aubrey Huff, Derek Lowe, Bartolo Colon
I could see Hudson for Santana or Wells, actually.
Sleepers
Keepers: Jeter, Mussina, Mariano Rivera
Close calls: Mark Mulder, Joel Piniero, Teixiera
I guess Mulder’s injury would mean that Moose and Mo get the nod over him. Teixiera’s an intriguing possibility.
Winnowill
Keepers: Miguel Tejada, Hank Blalock, Esteban Loaiza
Close calls: Varitek, Carlos Delgado, CC Sabathia, Carl Crawford
Delgado’s tough to drop, I thought the balance of having one pitcher was more important.
Saskodies
Keepers: Bret Boone, Carlos Beltran, Roy Halladay
Close Calls: Barry Zito, Rich Harden
I was surprised how much better Halladay’s peripheral numbers were than Zito’s this year.
Highlanders (me)
Keepers: Jason Giambi, Manny Ramirez, Andy Pettite
Close Calls: Eddie Guardado, Hideki Matsui, maybe Nick Johnson? Nah.
Jose Contreras is another intriguing possibility. I think Andy may be a potential free agent, so that is one strike against him.
Chaosophers
Keepers: Ichiro!, Magglio Ordonez, Tim Wakefield
Close Calls: Jamie Moyer, Melvin Mora, Troy Percival
How long is Jamie Moyer going to pitch? Only his age prevents him from getting the nod.
Saskatoon Locusts
Keepers: Jorge Posada, Keith Foulke, Pedro Martinez.
Close Calls: none, really. Johnny Damon, I guess
Rally Monkey
Keepers: A-Rod (duh), Mike Sweeney, Troy Glaus
Close Calls: Ramon Ortiz, Darin Erstad, Bill Mueller
Or maybe K-Rod?
Portland Expos
Keepers: Alfonso Soriano, Torii Hunter, Garret Anderson
Close Calls: Rafael Palmiero, Jarrod Washburn
So who’s left over to draft? Looking over the Close Calls, there are definitely some good players left, especially at OF and 1B. Even some good SP as well. I’m guessing that very few closers would be kept.
Who would be the first player drafter, after the keepers are taken? I’d guess whoever Saskodies chooses to drop amongst Halladay, Zito, Beltran and Bret Boone. Or Vlad, of course.
Comments? Thoughts? Calls for me to get a life?
I see no trouble with your picks here. They’re all legitimate keepers, especially in our league. I suspect that WL might keep Hudson over Santana. Or even keep Hudson and Santana over Wells.
I’d keep Nomar, Wells and Chavez.
Hmmm, I’d keep Jeter but not Mussina or Rivera. I just don’t trust any pitcher’s health enough to use one of three picks on him. So, that would leave me with Jeter, Teixeira, and Aaron Boone.
I briefly considered Dmitri Young or Jay Gibbons, but the three I chose would give me a very strong and flexible infield.
Tejada and Blalock, yes. But no one should keep Loaiza over Delgado. Loaiza just had himself a career year. Maybe he can do it again. Maybe. But Delgado puts up solid-to-tremendous stats year after year.
Boone and Beltran for sure. If I had to keep a pitcher, it’d be Halladay. But looking deeper into the Saskodies roster I see Carlos Lee, Eric Hinske, and Angel Berroa.
Lee is having a very good year. Hinske has finally started to come around. And Berroa’s numbers should not only make him the AL ROY in a landslide (sucks that Matsui will get it), but compare favourably to Nomar and Jeter’s.
Berroa would be my choice for the third keeper.
I’ll be back with answers to these and other questions, along with comments on your picks for yourself and the rest of the league, either later tonight or tomorrow morning.
Naw, don’t get a life. Then you wouldn’t be posting such fine things for me to respond to.
I completely missed Angel Berroa - don’t know why. I guess he’s not on my mental radar - it hasn’t really sunk in to my brain how good he’s been this year.
Well, obviously you rate keeping pitchers a lot lower than I do. I did wonder if I was overvaluing them as I went along, especially since pitchers only have 6 categories as opposed to hitters 7. Still, Aaron Boone? He just strikes me as a player really likely to decline. Milton Bradley is another option if you were taking hitters, I would think his upside compares favorably to Young and Gibbons, if he can stay healthy (big if).
Yes, as far as pitchers go, there’s the category difference but what keeps me from considering almost all pitchers as keeper options is the constant stress on their arms and, if their mechanics get even slightly out of whack, on their bodies. I figure it makes pitchers in general much more susceptible to injuries than hitters.
Aaron Boone: my reasoning is that he will qualify at 2B and 3B next season. His average ain’t much, but he has power and speed and should have plenty of opportunity to score and drive in runs as part of the Yankee lineup.
Bradley has more overall upside (power/speed/OBP/AVG) than Gibbons or Young, but the latter two will qualify at more than one position next season. Even with only nine teams, an AL league is fairly deep; therefore the positional flexibility you get with Boone, Gibbons or Young makes them very viable keepers to my mind.
Definitely Giambi and Ramirez. Those two alone would give you a significant edge in everything but SB’s. Pettitte or Contreras are the best choices from your pitching staff. But Contreras is still something of an unknown quantity while there would be pitchers as good or better than Pettitte available in the draft.
So, for your third keeper, I’d look for a player who would add to the offensive edge you already have and who would give you some SB’s. I could make a case for either Koskie or Baldelli, but I think it should be Koskie because of his infield position and the fact that he’ll provide SB’s as well as contributing in almost every other category.
No argument with the first two. Wakefield is too inconsistent. Moyer is too old.
The third keeper on erislover’s roster should come down to a choice between Bernie Williams (that Yankee lineup), Michael Young (the Rangers lineup, the hitter’s park), and David Ortiz.
I’d keep Ortiz. He’s been a revelation since the All-Star break:
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
60 220 38 60 14 2 21 54 24 43 0 0 .273 .344 .641 .985
Not a lot to argue with here. Once you get past Damon, there’s Durazo, Randa, Jacque Jones…
I’d agonize for a while and end up keeping Damon over Foulke on principle.
Yep, those are the three. That’s the beginning of a fine offence.
I’d think awhile and probably go with Palmeiro over Hunter. Or I’d flip a coin. Or I might keep only two players. That way I’d be sure to have the first pick of the draft and if I didn’t like anyone out there better than either of the two I couldn’t decide between, I really would flip a coin.
There’s actually quite a lot left. Working just from your list of Close Calls, and not ranked, here’s what we’d have:
Hitters
Aubrey Huff
Eric Chavez
Mark Teixiera
Jason Varitek
Carlos Delgado
Carl Crawford
Hideki Matsui
Nick Johnson
Melvin Mora
Darin Erstad
Bill Mueller
Rafael Palmiero
Pitchers
Tim Hudson
Derek Lowe
Bartolo Colon
Mark Mulder
Joel Piniero
CC Sabathia,
Barry Zito
Rich Harden
Eddie Guardado
Jose Contreras
Jamie Moyer
Troy Percival
Ramon Ortiz
K-Rod
Jarrod Washburn
My first choice from a list like that would be Hudson or Mulder. Then Delgado and Huff.
You know, this league ain’t so deep after all. I’d like to see us expand to at least 10 teams. 12 would be perfect.
I haven’t looked at your picks yet Wilson so I’ll post what I see and see how we match up.
WLs Theocracy: Keeping only three? I’d have a tough time here. I’d want to hang on to Nomar, Wells, Chavez, Santana, Hudson, and Colon. Sentimental favorite Trot Nixon merits a mention. Based purely on expected draft status I think I have to take Nomar, Hudson… gosh, and Colon. Well, maybe stay away from Colon due to the danger that he doesn’t get resigned in Chicago. I think I’m deadlocked between Wells and Chavez… 3B is a much more shallow position, but I’m tired of Chavvy, and if Tejada leaves the A’s offense will be pretty limp. And Wells is an absolute bomber. Hard to say. Santana’s very strong but is far less likely to be a top-27 pick next season. (Check out Trot’s season stats, you’ll be shocked… and that’s in only about 450 at-bats. And he’s an OPS superstar)
The Sleepers/Fatwater Fewl: I think I’d go with Mulder, Mussina, and Rivera. No truly standout candidates on offense, Teixeira comes close but probably isn’t a top-27 and I think that’s my main evaluative tool here. (Side Note 1: I hadn’t realized until just now what a fantastic season this team put together with very few big-name players. Wow.) (Side Note 2: Jay Gibbons, lord what an incredible pick in the 17th round. .280/25/100 from that low in the draft. I guess that kind of thing explains Side Note 1.)
Winnowills Winners: Delgado’s no question. You gotta go with Blalock. Tejada is so tempting, especially if the rumors are true that he’s headed to New York. Could be a huge first-rounder if she lets him go, but then you don’t want to see your keeper pick go to the other league. The other candidates would be Loaiza, depending if you believe this year or not, and Varitek.
Saskodies: Another big decision for a team with four obvious keepers: Zito, Halladay, Boone and Beltran are all no-brainers. I think I’d leave out Boone myself.
Highlanders/Wilson: Giambi, Manny, and Pettitte. Pretty straightforward. Personally I’ll be rooting for Manny to get moved this offseason but that’ll be impossible to predict and you can’t pass him up.
Chaosophers/erislover: Real easy here, and I’m fairly sure these were his (computer’s) top three picks in the draft too: Ordonez, Ichiro, Bernie Williams. Clemens is done and Moyer should be; nobody else is close to keeper status (checking back, I was wrong, he took Percy before Williams).
Saskatoon Locusts: Posada. Pedro. You have to stay away from Foulke because we don’t know where he’ll be next year. The best offensive season on this squad was posted by Edgar Martinez, but the unabated aging of the Mariners as well as E-Mart himself has to put you off. Damon or Jones would be next in line.
Rally Monkey/deb: ARod. Possibly Glaus although that shoulder’s got to scare you. Potentially Sweeney or even Mueller.
Portland Expos: Soriano and Anderson have to stay. After that, hard to say. The other offensive candidates would be Hunter and Palmeiro but I’d be wary of them both: Palmeiro may have just had his last good year, and Hunter’s likely to fall in next season’s draft due to his off year. Nobody stands out behind the mound; I’d recommend Ponson except that he’s a Giant. I think I’m going with Hunter over Palmeiro.
So I think these are my choices:
WL Nomar, Hudson, Colon
Fewl Mulder, Mussina, Rivera
Winnowill Delgado, Blalock, Tejada
Odies Zito, Halladay, Beltran
Wilson Giambi, Manny, Pettitte
erl Ordonez, Ichiro, Williams
Locusts Posada, Pedro, Damon
deb ARod, Glaus, Sweeney
Expos Soriano, Anderson, Hunter
C 1
1B 3
2B 1
3B 2
SS 3
LF 2
CF 4
RF 2
SP 8
RP 1
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