SDMB Weight Loss Club, January (08)

After two weeks, I’ve lost about 2.5 lbs. Of course, my husband’s lost 8 lbs in the same time period. Oh well.

The 100-Day Challenge started today - I’ve got to get and keep my team at work motivated. Now we are trying to put together some group exercise activities. Everyone wanted to do an outdoor walk/hike, so of course we got snow today. One of my team is looking into snowshoes, another into a rollerskating rink. I think I’ll go home and look at the bottom of a wine glass for inspiration. Only one glass though - I’m on South Beach phase II which lests you have an occasional glass of wine (hurray!).

I’ve been on no particular diet except that it’s a limit of 1400 calories per day. So I’ve been eating a lot of fruit and veggies, a little(very little) meat and cheese and the occasional egg. Very small amounts of cream and sugar for coffee and tea.

My goal is to lose 49 pounds. That will take me from 224 to 175. After I get stable at 175 for a while I’ll see about working off another 10 pounds.

I got to 176 a little over a year ago, then let myself slide back into bad habits. I figure if I did it once I can lose again. If I keep at a rate of 2 pounds a week I can make it by June 30.

tdn, you’re probably just venting and whatnot, but on the off-chance you aren’t, I’m going to ask you this:

If you do give up and quit paying attention to your food and exercise, will you get any lighter? If not, do you think you will regain your weight? If so, would you really want to do that?

You may not be progressing right now, but do you really want to backslide?

With the one-two punch of Christmas holiday in Texas at my mom’s house and a week in Vegas working at the Consumer Electronics Show (Paris Buffet = evil incarnate) I am currently up 4 lbs to 131 lbs (1 lb over my top limit of 130). I probably could have handled Christmas or Vegas but both back to back was just too tough. I tried to make as many good food decisions as I could, but wow, just tough all over.

I have gone back into “weight loss” mode - counting my calories (aiming for 1400-1600) and carefully packing my lunch/snacks every day. Heavily empasizing fresh vegetables, fresh fruit, lean protein, low fat dairy, whole grains and healthy fats - limiting packaged foods. Alcohol and “treats” are currently strictly curtailed until I’m back to 127-128! Next week, I am going to up the workout intensity (4-5 days of 45 minute cardio). It’s exactly what I did to lose all the weight in the first place. My goal is to be back at 127 by the NEXT Vegas event at the end of February.

In February, I will celebrate my third year of weight maintenance - the war never ends.

200/131/127

tdn, do yourself a favor and keep up the exercising. I seriously didn’t lose anything for a long time at one point when I first started trying to get back in shape. I dropped a couple of kilos initially (I was almost 90 kg at my fattest, which is about 20 kg heavier than I was as a senior in high school) and then nothing happened for a couple of months. I was feeling better, workouts were getting easier, but I wasn’t losing anything.

What worked for me: I cut my cardio time to less than 20 minutes, but increased the intensity. I switched from steady efforts to intervals, and tried to keep my heart rate at about 80% of my max on the peaks, about 65–70% on the valleys. I switched from doing light weight to mixing in heavier weights with low repetitions. I did a two week cycle of heavy/light workouts, 3 days a week, MWF.

About 4–6 weeks into this higher intensity workout, I started dropping fat like crazy for the next few weeks. You could actually see my stomach shrink between one weekly photo and the next (I only took pictures for a few months close to the beginning, to keep me motivated). I needed the light weightlifting and the easy cardio to get me in enough shape that I wouldn’t hurt myself when I started doing real workouts. Things leveled out again after that, but something I learned from that is that variation in your exercise, and pushing yourself to do more; heavier, faster, harder, whatever progression you want to use, will often get results.

If you’re at a plateau, you need to change something, but please don’t quit completely. Change the intensity of your exercise, add some weight lifting if you’re not doing it already. Paradoxically, increasing your calorie intake a bit, especially your protein consumption, can help you lose fat if you’ve been on a restricted calorie diet. There might be other recommendations a dietician or exercise specialist can give you if you consult them.

You will never regret staying with exercise, but you will almost certainly regret it if you stop doing it for too long. I know I did. I was an athlete in high school and college, and got fat for the first time in my life after I broke my wrists, got depressed from that and other stuff, and stopped doing anything active as a consequence. It took almost as long to get the weight off as it did to put it on, and I had a prior active lifestyle to use as an example for myself.

I’ve had a couple of setbacks, including one “break” that ate up the better part of a year. Because of that I strongly encourage you to learn from my mistakes: it’s much harder to get started than it is to continue, and it’s way too easy to let a hiatus stretch out too long. I gained back a good 5 kg of the 12–13 kg I initially lost because of that break, and it took more time than I want to think about to get back to the levels of exercise I’d reached before, though thankfully the fat wasn’t as stubborn the second time around.

Seriously, don’t worry as much about the food part as you do about keeping active. I only kept close track of my intake and eating patterns in the early part of my weight loss, as a way of re-educating myself on what a “portion” should look like, and as a way of getting back into healthier patterns of eating (5–6 smaller meals spread out throughout the day rather than 3 larger meals). In my experience, diet is not anywhere near as important as exercise.

I’m not saying to go out and start eating 5000 calorie meals, but try to stay as active as you can make yourself if you do decide you need a bit of time off from calorie counting. And try your damndest not to let your break last longer than a couple of weeks, or it will be much easier to find excuses not to start again.


A note for those with machine-induced de-motivation: fat-measuring scales are often close to worthless, especially if you start putting on more than average muscle mass. Feel free to use it as a mental boost if your numbers are going down, but pay more attention to the tape measure, actual weight, and the mirror if your Tanita or whatever scale shows little change or an upward trend.

Mine cost me ¥12,000 and can’t seem to figure out the difference between having a serious gut that prevents you from wearing half your clothes, and a stomach that’s flat even when you don’t suck it in. Seriously, I lost close to 30 lbs. and it showed my body fat going up from when I first started using it. It got less accurate as I got in better shape, sometimes showing fluctuations as large as 5% from day to day, even when I followed good practice by weighing in at the same time of day. Weight-wise, it shows about what other scales show, but the body fat measurement bears no resemblance to reality.

Muscle building exercise like calisthenics, weight lifting, or gymnastics-type stuff will help A LOT. Not only will it help you with losing fat, it’ll help you with keeping it off. I recently took a 6 week break due to the holidays and travel, which gave me no access to a gym and little time or motivation to do what exercise I could do outside the gym. Some calisthenics and stretching a few times in that 6 weeks was about all I did. During that time, I didn’t pay much attention to what I ate — aside from mostly-unconscious portion control. I feel a bit bloated and nauseous if I eat until I’m “full” instead of about 80% full now that I’m used to smaller and more frequent meals.

My scale weight only changed by about a kilo. I give most of the credit to my workout program prior to this hiatus that packed on around 4 kg of muscle I didn’t have last year. A side benefit of doing mixed strength and intensive cardio conditioning is that my first workout after the break, that I did the other day, was one that would have either killed me or made me want to die even as recently as 6 months ago. I actually thought I was taking it just a bit easy. The carry-over lasted longer than I thought it would, thank the gods. I still got a bit sore, though.

Negative motivation is actually what helped me get back on the horse after being a lazy bum for a couple of weeks after my life routine started again. The thought of procrastinating until one of my regular workouts was torture — instead of just pleasantly painful — was not a happy one. That was the stick.

The carrot was the goal of being able to do some of the workouts from Crossfit un-scaled by the end of this year. I’ve been using them as my workout planner since sometime early in 2007. I still have to scale the goal weights, though I’m usually doing full reps now. Since the workouts vary, and they are all quite challenging, it keeps my motivation up. It also provides inspiration since there are kids and old people who do their stuff, as well as some people who show what you might be able to achieve if you stick with it.

Even if you can’t do the workouts they show, the principles work very well. There’s a ton of info available free on their site. I’m just now getting to the point where I’m willing to pony up money for the things they don’t just give away. And I found a place that gives better scaling guidelines than my initial “guess and try it” method, especially for newbies: Brand X Martial Arts Forums.

Just checking in to say that I saw my publicity shot in the panto programme last night. My face has got thin!

Sleel and scout1222, I think you misinterpreted my post (very understandable, reading back on it). I’m not giving up on exercise, and I’m not giving up on eating right. What I’m giving up on is the diet and exercise that worked for me in the past, but have kept me on this same bullshit plateau for a good six months. It’s time to upgrade. It’s time to kick my own ass.

It occurs to me that the 20 minute workout that I’ve relied on for the past nine months just isn’t cutting it any more. It used to make me sweat buckets, now it barely makes me damp. The weight training I did used to make my muscles sore for days, now I barely even notice that I’m lifting a thing. And I’ve grown a little complacent about my eating.

What I quit is doing stuff that no longer works.

I had a good long talk with my sister about this last night. She asked me to tell her, in detail, what I’ve been doing, and she gave me a long list of suggestions, including eating more, but better foods. (I really need to fill up at lunchtime. No more afternoon snacking on high-fat crap.)

And I think I need to do something different for exercise. Maybe not working harder, maybe not working smarter, but just working different. Wake up my muscles a little bit.

And maybe joining a gym, or getting heavier hand weights.

At any rate, I’ve made an appointment with that nutritionist.

You’re only doing a 20 minute workout? Yeah, I’d say increasing time would be a good idea. I don’t know if you’re just doing 20 minutes because of a lack of free time, but I’m typically exercising an hour a day, longer on weekends. Burn some more calories! :smiley:

Well, yeah, the stomach flu did result in a 3-pound loss. I know I’ll gain it back as soon as I am eating more (although hopefully being able to exercise again will offset that), but for now, I am enjoying the fact that I have lost **11 pounds ** since starting WW 3 months ago. Actually, 11 pounds since 2-1/2 months ago, since the first few weeks netted me no loss whatsoever. Anyhow, 5 pounds to first goal, maybe another 5 after that…but I’m more concerned right now with some running goals that I’d like to set.

The 20 minute workouts are that long because that’s how long the video is. I also don’t have a lot of free time in the evenings. But in the past, that didn’t matter so much, as I was losing pretty serious weight. But since I got stuck, yeah, I’m going to have to amp it up a bit.

I’ve read more than one study that says exercise is cumulative and so if you can find the time it will be ok to do several 20 minute work outs a day rather than one long work out.

Okay, I did misinterpret what you were saying, pretty seriously. In fact, what you’re planning to do is what I thought you should do. Yay, we’re on the same page!

Strategies for weight loss and increasing performance at the higher levels of fitness are not all that far apart. You always have to make your workouts a challenge, try to do lots of different things (cross-training wasn’t just a 90s fad; it does work and work well) and always, always try for more. More time, more weight, a few more reps, whatever you can do to make your body pay attention.

Sounds like you’re going to be doing that. Good for you.

I need some adivce, and I figure you guys are a good place to turn.

I’ve been going to the gym 3-4 times a week since May. I mostly do cardio - elliptical, treadmill, and bike. Sometimes I do weights too. I keep telling myself I should do weights every time, but I just can’t seem to fit it in. I go to the gym between classes so I have only so much time. With school, work, homework, etc, I don’t think there’s any other time I can go.

Does anyone know of anything weight-like I can do at home in the evening? Will anything I could do at home actually help? I don’t have a ton of money, and I feel silly buying extra stuff when I already pay for a gym membership, but it has become clear that I just can’t fit in the weights on my current schedule, so something else must be done.

Thanks guys.

All of my weight lifting is done at home - I used to go to the gym but don’t like getting home hours later.

Several exercises use no weights other than your own body - pushups (regular, or from the knees, or one-handed, whatever you can do); dips - do chair dips where your feet are elevated as high as your hands if you can’t do full bar dips; chinups or pullups, all you need is a bar (which can be a piece of pipe from the hardware store). Lunges, squats, crunches. Find an exercise book showing the proper form for calisthenics.

For hand weights, if you are used to light weights, start with a couple of soup cans (2lbs each), or plastic water bottles.

You can then move up to dumbbells - get a set of dumbbell bars with collars and individual weight plates. It’s cheaper than “fixed” dumbbells and each time you add a little weight you only have to buy a bit of metal at the store, you don’t have to replace the whole weight set.

My normal weight routine at home currently includes:

(All done with dumbbells)
Curls
Shrugs
Shoulder press (basically military press)
Overhead tricep extension
Side lateral raise
Bent-over row

Chair dips
Crunches

Aside from the weights the only special pieces of equipment are a cheap folding chair and an exercise ball (big inflatable swiss ball).

I used to do pushups and chinups as well but I tweaked something so I’m slowly training it back up.

So yes, there’s plenty of strength training you can do at home, no need to spend a lot of money on gear. Plus you only have to listen to the music you like and nobody is spitting in the water fountain :slight_smile:

Turn on some tunes that energize you, or a concert DVD of something similar, and have at it.

Along with a sensible diet and suitable aerobic exercise the results are quite good.

I think your problem is that you’re trying to do more instead of substituting. Swap out a cardio session for a weight session. Or do a short intense cardio session twice a week after your weight workout, and do your longer cardio on the “recovery” day following the weight day. You won’t regret it.

Something that many people don’t realize is that endurance efforts are not all that great for overall fitness. If you run and don’t do any strength training, you’re not going to be good at anything besides running. Also, short-term, high-intensity efforts positively affect cardiovascular fitness. Sprinters have more muscle mass, lower body fat, and comparable or better cardiovascular performance compared to runners who train for longer events.

The training I’m doing now is a mix of strength training and system conditioning. The running is mostly short, but fast. To give you an idea of how well these shorter efforts can prepare you for long distance, I ran a 5 k in November, the first time I’d run that far since probably high school. In the prescribed workouts I’d been doing untill then, the longest single leg I’d run was 800 m, and the longest cumulative distance was 2.4 km. I finished the 5 k in 25 minutes. Not a race-class time, for sure, but I seriously doubt that most people whose main exercise is distance running, and so could handily beat that time, would also have one-rep maxes of 180% of their body weight on the deadlift, 150% squat, and 110% bench press. And I’m still not even in good shape compared to some of the people doing the training program I’m following.

I had my weigh-in today at my Weight Watcher’s meeting. Good news to report. I’m down 1.4 lbs from last week!

153.2/151.8/145

Tonight I went to the gym and tried the workout Zweisamkeit recommended (post #76) after doing 20-minutes of cardio work. It was my first time doing this routine and I was whupped when I was done! I haven’t felt that “worked” in a long time! I believe this will give my metabolism the additional kick-start it has needed. Thanks. . .I think :stuck_out_tongue:

So, I feel energized and focused. I’ve decided to cut out wine and martinis from my weekends for the next two to three weeks. Not that I drink a lot, but it is enough to lower my inhibitions and I risk becoming an eating machine when I get home. It takes the next 4-5 days to undo the damage. Enough!!

I WILL have a good weekend. I WILL have a good weekend. I WILL have a good weekend.

:smiley:

218 as of just a moment ago, which is down five pounds from Saturday and eight from the first.

And since everyone else is asking about exercise, can someone recommned what is best for cardio on an elliptical machine? My usual routine is to set it at 6 so that it targets all my muscles and then start with the resistance at 15, going down two or three resistance levels every five minutes. It works pretty well for me and I’m usually flying by the end of it but I have no idea how effective it really is since my trainer focused almost exclusively on weightlifting form.

Yeah, I think we are.

Last night I decided to break routine and search through OnDemand for something different. I found a 20 minute cardio workout that started out “So grab your handweights. Two or three pounds is best.” I don’t own two or three pounders, mine are ten.

“Doesn’t that feel great?”

It’s not often that I get to tell my TV to fuck off and die. I can barely lift my arms this morning. That was awesome! :slight_smile:

Nice!

You sexy thang.

Sorry I didn’t check in yesterday, but we went out to dinner and then to The Theatre* right after work, and I didn’t get home until 11 PM, and I didn’t do any posting before bed.

Anyway, my weigh in result from yesterday was 196.6, which is a 1 pound loss from last week. I was actually expecting a gain, since we went out for my birthday dinner on Sunday, and I had pasta and meatballs and chocolate cake. I wasn’t too bad, though, as I shared the cake with my sister and my nephew and my other nephew and then my first nephew again. :smiley:

*Well, sorta. My oldest nephew’s school play.