Has this question been addressed yet? I belong to a hidden/invitation only Facebook page for offensive memes. As far as I know, the page is “legal”.
Perhaps it’s time for Facebook to reconsider allowing secret groups. What’s the point of allowing people to have a place to share their racist feelings in private? If they feel that way, make them come out in the open.
Dumb Donald says in response to all of this that Democrats want open borders. The Edward II treatment is too good for this asshole.
You should follow your own advice, read the link provided…and reevaluate your support for those thugs.
I see that this is a demonstration that government workers are hateful, but this info does not suggest that they would attain “power” in voluntary society.
Of course they will never call for firings. They’ll be sent to a rubber room with decent WiFi at worst.
Because secret groups have uses other than providing a place for people to share their racist feelings. In fact, I suspect most secret groups are not about people sharing their racist feelings. A 'secret group" is one that is invisible to non-members. Non-members won’t see it on searches , and if I join one. my friends won’t be able to see that I am a member. Very useful for planning surprise parties or to have conversations with close family or friends that you don’t necessarily want to share with their friends.
I can’t understand how anyone can believe a group with 9K plus members is actually “secret” . The way secret groups stay secret is that you can only join if you are invited by a current member- but with that many member, people must have been inviting those they barely knew to join - which of course, is how the group came to light.
Yes, I thought of the notion of planning Aunt Lydia’s surprise party. But you can just as easily do the same thing with the Facebook messaging, start private conversations. In any event, I’m glad someone ratted out the group. The question is, will the members face any consequences? I’m betting the no line.
Voluntary societies is a hijack. Do not hijack unrelated threads with your favorite topic.
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Thanks for keeping the tone in GD so high!
Introducing New Zealand is a hijack. Do not hijack unrelated threads with topics you seem to have an unusual amount of interest in.
Both of these are inappropriate for this forum. Knock it off.
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The most horrifying element to this revelation is that it’s a federal law enforcement agency that has now been effectively radicalized. It should be pointed out that normal civil liberties protection don’t extend to migrants and people coming through or across borders in the same way they do to people who are already here. This has no doubt emboldened CBP to operate violently with a fair degree of impunity, but worse, it’s not necessarily out of the realm of imagination to assume that other agencies having more direct contact with ordinary people could also become similarly radicalized. A democratic society cannot tolerate violence of any kind under the color of law.
Careful…you’ll have a certain someone in here reminding you that government enforcement of the law IS violence…
I started a secret group when a close friend was in an induced coma. I was thus able to keep a small circle of his friends informed about his condition, those who already had an idea about what was going on. Unlike message threads I was the only person able to invite people, which was the point as I didn’t want to risk all and sundry joining in. Once he was conscious I invited him to the group.
Secret groups on Facebook have the same rules as secret groups in real life. For surprise parties, sharing private information etc: benign, for malicious gossip and so on: nasty, for professionals to snark on clients: may involve privacy violations and other unprofessional behaviour, may be grounds for dismissal. It’s not a Facebook thing it’s a human society thing.
The first rule of secret Facebook groups…
If the latest Congressional trip to our concentration camps are any indication the attitude border guards show on their supersekrit Facebook page is spilling out into real life.
You know, on one hand I can sympathize - you take a bunch of kids with barely any training and force them to watch over a cesspool of human misery on a shoestring budget ; and many (most ?) will dehumanize their charge as a coping mechanism not to go insane. All the more so when some of the guys on “their” team are absolute assholes they feel they can’t do anything about but still have to work with/around and rely on.
On the other hand, fuck these guys. Quit, blow whistles and/or testify, motherfuckers.
Exactly. If Trump’s economy is so fucking great, one doesn’t need to take the job of concentration camp guard to ‘feed your family’.
Quit, testify, or damn yourself. Those are the options.
This is very bad, offensive, and wrong. They shouldn’t have done it. There are going to be consequences and I think that’s a good thing. In no way do I wish anyone to think that I am endorsing this apologizing for it or trying to downplay it. Ok.
But
At this point, I am unsurprised to hear that a bunch of people are talking shit and saying horrible things when they think they are anonymous.
That seems to be a thing that happens a lot and that a lot of people do.
Am I ok? Two things can be true at the same time.
My question is what do we think should happen, and what do you think is going to happen? How is society going to evolve and deal with this?
Are people just going to go deeper undercover and learn to protect themselves better so they remain anonymous when they talk indefensible shit? Are they just going to be more careful about it?
Are people just going to stop talking shit, because these kind of things illustrate how awful it is, how destructive? Are we going to learn and do better?
Are we going to end up in an oppressive Orwellian dystopia where everybody is afraid to say anything?
What’s going to happen when all the other indefensible shit that everybody has been saying when they thought they were anonymous gets thrown in their face and comes back to them?
I haven’t really thought about the implications of this, so I don’t have anything.
My current thinking is absolutely schizophrenic. I feel like they should all be punished and lose their jobs.
I also feel that everybody talks shit, and it’s wrong to destroy somebody’s life and make them lose their job because they used bad judgement and posted some bad shit
I feel both of these things and I feel them both pretty strongly. I can think about either and I get myself worked up and passionate.
Which is to say that I have no idea how we should handle this, and how we should be handling this kind of stuff as a society.
So, help me out?
Sure-Why don’t we stick to talking about this particular issue instead of darting off in 14 vague and/or separate directions?
Is there some obvious reason why the actual text of what was posted is not available?