She’s also fighting the Skrull invasion but she is not on Fury’s side. Fury wants a peaceful solution; she wants to eradicate them all to protect Earth.
Not sure I would categorize her as a villain, antagonist maybe.
Antagonist is better yes.
Something I saw pointed out online: the four DNA samples G’ia saw map pretty well to the powers of the Fantastic Four. Groot stretches, Extrimis is Flame, Ice Elves could be inviability (turns clear like ice) and the last one was Thanos’ tough henchman I think like The Thing. In the comics, the Super Skrull had the powers of the Fantastic Four.
I liked E2 more than E1 but I spend the whole time yelling at the tv. If I wouldn’t be spoiled, I’d save them and binge them all at once so I wouldn’t have the annoyance I feel. Like maybe some of the things I yell about will be resolved and/or addressed by the end… Although I doubt they all will because there were a lot of things just left hanging in all the other D+ shows.
Like, assuming it was Rhodey and not a Skrull Rhodey, why wouldn’t he give Fury the benefit of the doubt? Or the security council? Half of you assholes would be dead dead dead if it weren’t for him (he meets Carol, Carol saves Tony, Tony’s integral to time travel stone shenanigans). Plus all the other things he’s done. Just a lot of yelling at things like that. Or when Gravik had the torture victim killed. Way to engender loyalty, asshole. A lot of it is just spy shit tropes and I’m not a big fan of spy stuff. However, I do see that this could all come together in the end, but it seems unlikely when none of the other shows did.
And I know Marvel tv shows can be perfect. S1 Jessica Jones is one of my favorite things ever.
I thought Rhodey made good points. “I’m gonna take care of this world ending problem by myself” is a very hard sell, specially after you already failed miserably causing an international incident and losing the only backup you had. Gravik’s henchmen were there when Brogan(?) swore up and down that he’d told them nothing, then they all immediately find out that their safe house had been raided. I think they’d be more upset with the “betrayal” than the execution, they are more like cult members than henchmen anyways.
2000 dead?
I could not believe when that was announced. What I saw at the end of E1 was a few conventional bombs going off in a crowded square. Not to diminish the horror of such a event, but in real life such events usually result in at worst a few dozen dead. But the writers would have us believe this attack was somehow 67% as deadly as the WTC on 9/11.
If so, they needed to show cataclysmic, building-leveling devastation, but we didn’t see anything like that. Bad writing or cheap production values at work; maybe both.
That jumped out at me too. For comparison the final battle in Age of Ultron, in which a whole city was taken up into the sky then dropped had…177 casualties.
In Age of Ultron, they evacuated the city with super-heroes, including a guy who had super-speed, to one or more flying battleships before the city was dropped. In Secret Invasion, the bombs went off suddenly in a crowded area, with no one evacuated before the event.
I think Rhodey also said that figure could triple when they’re done clearing the rubble.
I continue to be unimpressed by the writing and plotting.
(1) How does it make the remotest sense that anyone seriously thinks that Nick Fury was a terrorist? I mean, isn’t he literally known around the world (at least to people in power) as the creator of The Avengers, etc? There was a mysterious terrorist attack, and he was nearby. Of COURSE he was, he was trying to stop it!
(1a) Unless that manipulation of public opinion is what the Skrulls want, as they have clearly infiltrated the very highest levels of power, impersonating all sorts of word leaders
(2) Which brings us to the second point… if the Skrulls have infiltrated that many levels of power, haven’t they already basically won? Can’t they more or less get whatever they want, as they are in charge of everything? It makes very little sense for them to be both dirt-poor put-down refugees who just want some teeny sliver of earth to call their own… but also they literally control many of the world’s major nations. Hard to have it both ways.
Also, there was a snippet of dialog about “What if the Avengers return” or something. Did they go somewhere? Cap is gone and Iron Man is dead, and I guess Spider Man has been forgotten by everyone, but aren’t there still a lot of very powerful Avengers who basically are publicly known to be on earth (Strange, Hawkeye, War Machine, Hulk) or pop in frequently (Thor, Captain Marvel)? Also, Wakanda exists.
The leader of NATO and the UK prime minister are skrulls, we know they are the ones trying to start a war between the US and Russia.
Sorta? Were they already trying to do that, or was that initially only Gravik’s plan? Or were they already on his side? I thought that he wanted to start a war, but most Skrulls didn’t agree with him?
But in any case:
(a) if they’re in on it, and pushing the “Nick Fury must have been a terrorist” narrative, then other people should notice that that’s an odd reaction to have about someone who is basically the savior of the world. Nick Fury himself should certainly notice and remark upon it.
(b) and again, if they’ve already achieved that much power, then why do they need to start a war?
Because “power” alone is not the goal, they want all humans gone.
Do we know they all want that? Or does Gravik want that but has a more palatable cover story?
The whole thing is (at least so far) frustratingly vague.
Well obviously not all as Talos is working against them and his daughter is iffy on the whole thing, though she was just fine with what they were doing until she found out they killed her mom. Gravik did a successful coup on their leadership council last episode so he is fully in charge.
They don’t want all humans gone. They want our world and a nuclear war is the easiest way for them to make it bad for us to live here while not harming them. It’s a means to an end.
Based on who was in their meeting they already have plenty of power.
I don’t understand how this is not wanting all humans gone
They’ll make some new disaster - that’s what they’re counting on. They used to want us dead but now they only want us gone.
I still don’t understand the difference, we can’t just leave. Gone = dead.
I don’t know what Quimby meant, but perhaps humans could use a Portal?