Semen and Kosher?

I can’t think of anywhere that I’ve ever found that semen is expressly forbiddden for Jews to eat. My question stems from the milk/meat issue. Obviously, semen, although it may have many euphemisms that involve the word “milk,” is not a secretion of the mammary glands.

Is it, however, a meat/meat product?

If I were Jewish, and followed Kosher, would I be able to ingest semen and milk at the same meal?

For the record, no, I’m not the only person in the world wondering this. My boyfriend also wonders the same thing. (Only after I prompted it.)

Doesn’t some kosher rule have something about bodily fluids being drained from the animal? :wink:

Things that are derived from an animal but are not the animal’s actual flesh are not meat. I imagine this would (from a Kashrus perspective) be no different than drinking milk after French-kissing someone.

On the other hand, doesn’t semen usually contain trace amounts of blood? If so, I don’t think you’d be allowed to ingest it, as blood is always a no-no.

I’d think that the kosher-ness would be the least of your problems - after all, you’d have to “spill your seed” in order for someone to swallow it, and you’d be immediately smitten by the Lord for doing so (google “Bible Onan”).

Onan wasn’t smote because he spilled his seed upon the ground, he was smote because he refused to impregnate his (dead) brother’s wife to give his brother a posthumous son. The method he chose to avoid impregnating his brother’s wife was spilling his seed upon the ground.

True. But nonetheless, sh’chatat zerah - (destruction of the seed, or ejaculation outside the vagina) is halachically forbidden, and that prohibition is based on the Onan passage. In fact, male masturbation is forbidden for this reason as well. Niddah 13a: in the case of a man, “…the hand that reaches below the navel should be chopped off.”

Aww, so long, righty. We had something beautiful together . . .

I read this as “the hand that reaches below, the navel should be choped off.”

Ok, how about this: The semen was ejaculated in the normal way into a woman. This woman then took a small vacuum of some kind and deposited (what part of it she could) it into a glass.

Multiply this by a lot of women, who all do this, and deposit it into the same glass. This is put into the refrigerator, just so that I can call it a tall frosty mug of semen.

And ignore the vaginal juices that surely would contaminate the semen.

What about now?

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uh…go ask a rabbi about that one.

Apparently, there is a loophole:

I’d definitely recommend pan frying it with the remaining hand, though. ;j

http://www.koltorah.org/ravj/14-7%20Cloning%202.htm

Wow. Those Rabbis think of everything:

Ya see. Then technically, it’s not outside. :eek:

I assume the testing is non-destructive.

This reminded me of an old Onion article

Local Lutheran Minister Loves to Fuck His Wife

I didn’t realize until just know that smitten was a past participle (yeah, yeah whatever, I can’t diagram a sentence anymore either) of smite. Just doesn’t seem to carry the same weigh in a connotative sense.

-rainy

If I’d a had the kind of wife (chaoticbear) who woulda engaged in the kind of conversation, speculation and post ejaculation activation that the above poster indicates, I’da never left home in the first place. ;j

Just great. Another set of dishes to worry about. :wink:

That’s because smitten means ‘infatuated’.

Exactly my point.

Well Jews aswell as Muslims eat Kosher. I think the rules in Judaism are sumwhat similar i mean if u really like it who can stop u ? But think logicly or ask u mother semen is mad to nock u up not for the forth mean of the day

Er, yes :smack:, perhaps The Lord really likes the idea of a snack o’ the ol’ pan-fried washed down by a frosty mug of… I think I realized the minute I hit submit that this should’ve read “smote” or “smited” or something ;j (hey, woohoo, I finally get to use that smiley!)