All amateur, usually.
The other party indicates receptiveness by tapping back. And if you’re not interested, you ignore completely. No eye contact, no retapping, nothing.
I’ve started an “Ask the Former Restroom Sex Afficionado” thread if anyone has questions, rather than hijacking this thread away from Craig.
Yes, but they didn’t do that with Foley, who was from a pretty reliably GOP district. Looks like they learned something.
Question. If he wasn’t offering to pay anyone for sex and sex didn’t actually happen, what was he charged with? I’m not sure I see a crime here. Intent to commit one, maybe…
He was charged with Interference with privacy – peeping (the 2 minutes of staring through the cracks around the door into the stall) and disorderly conduct (the signaling for sex in a public place).
Here is a link to the arresting officers report which gives the details.
They seem to have let him off easy; I think he could also have been charged with ‘simple battery’ for his unwanted touching of the police officer.
The misdemeanor to which Craig pled guilty was “lewd and disorderly conduct in public.” Presumably even offering some kind of sexual contact in a public toilet comes under that. (Would I be committing that crime if I masturbated all alone in a public toilet? No idea.)
Sure. But why should that be illegal and why do the police need to waste my tax dollars setting up stings for it? I mean- if I smile in a certain way, send a drink down through the bartender, and ask “How* yew* doin’?” to a woman,* those* are generally recognized signals for a one-night stand, but would I be arrested? No, but only because I am going for casual sex with someone of the opposite sex.
Now, yes, if two people (of whatever sex) are actually having sex in a public restroom, I have no problem at all with the police breaking it up. But I should imagine that sometimes a gay “meet” in a restroom is followed by casual sex outside somewhere more private?
Not that I disagree with where you appear to be coming from, but my WAG is that the law(s) are in place to protect the folks who do not wish to interact with fellow visitors of a bathroom facility while in the privacy of their own stall, and find any such activity (be it invitations for sex or not) to be highly disruptive and upsetting.
Absolutely. But I- like most straight dudes here- had absolutely no idea that foot tapping was a signal. So a dude tapping his foot next to a clueless straight dudes can’t be “highly disruptive and upsetting”. Of course, if a gay dude right out asked me for sex, that wouldn’t upset me either.
Which has also never happened to me. Given my thermonuclear sexual magnetism, I can only attribute this to the presense of some form of “gaydar”.
One assumes the police were staking out the bathroom in question because they had received multiple complaints. The complaints were probably more specific than “hey, some guy in the next stall is auditioning for Ted Mack’s Amateur Hour.”
So, they were there because of a perceived problem. For all you know, there had been some stall-sex previously. Maybe it interfered with some one’s BM. I’ve got a shy bladder, and can’t imagine my sphincter shrinkage if I heard two guys doing it in the next stall. I don’t care a whit about people’s private lives, just don’t fuck on my lawn.
Senator Craig is one of about 2 dozen arrests at the Airport this summer for similar activities. He’s just the only one who’s getting a lot of publicity (2 months later). All the others pled guilty also, paid their fines, and quietly disappeared (like Sen. Craig also wanted to do).
Nor would you be arrested if you came on to someone of the same sex in a gay/lesbian bar. Different story if you tried to have sex while still on the premises.
Well, he should have just kept his U.S. Senate card in his wallet. Then, unless some energetic reporter noticed a senator’s name in the arrest reports (and how many know all 100 names?), he could’ve quietly buried the whole thing.
No, you’re not going to be arrested because you’re not going to fuck that woman right there in the bar. Guys don’t meet up in men’s rooms, and then go to a hotel. That’s what gay bars are for. If you’re looking for hook ups in a toilet, it’s because you want to fuck right there, quickly and anonymously. That’s the entire point of cruising rest rooms.
It’s not the foot tapping that’s disturbing. It’s the fucking. And if I’m trying to do my business in a public restroom, and some guys are humping in the next stall over, yeah, I’m going to be pretty disturbed by that.
As mentioned, some of these places (restrooms, park trails) get “known” as the place for cruising…first by the cruisers and then by police who are trying to stop the activity. There are places where it can get out of hand (so to speak)…like the public restrooms at Will Rogers Park in Santa Monica, or an out of the way public mens room in a large shopping mall. The cruising is obvious and intense and it can can be rather creepy if clueless gramps takes the grandkids in there and they see whats going on.
Interesting that part of Craig’s apparent plea bargin was the he pleaded guilty to the misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct, but avoided the charge of interference with privacy, which is a gross misdemeanor. How every true.
Probably not accurate.
From the evidence of this incident (and the prior one at Union Depot in DC), Senator Craig’s ‘type’ is hunky, well-built late-20’s to 30’s studs. He’s unlikely to be interested in 17-year-old pages; most people have a pretty definite idea of what type turns them on.
FYI, The Smoking Gun has the arresting officer’s report if you’re interested.
Parks? Restrooms? Beach cabanas?
I had no idea such things really happened outside of Tom of Finland cartoons.*
It’s funny, the other Senator from Idaho, Mike Crapo, is a distant relative of mine. He’s a Mormon and AFAIK a really straight-up family guy. I haven’t heard a peep out of him, but then again what could he say? He’ll have enough trouble explaining to visiting schoolkids why he’s suddenly the senior senator from ID soon enough.
There is an interesting report dated 6/22 (11 days after Craig’s arrest) claiming Craig stopped at the airport police office again, to get contact information for his lawyer to deal with the charges. This is page 3 of the Smoking Gun documents, but the later court documents leave the attorney information blank.
Also, the document he signed contained these two clauses:
He signed the guilty plea on August 1, three weeks after the incident – certainly enough time to reconsider the implications of his plea and to seek legal counsel if he had any brains.
I would say he had his brains in his ass, but it is possible they were pushed up into his bowels. 