Senator Lindsey Graham has died

I don’t know – he never had them. Graham seemed to have some at one point – friends with Biden and McCain, said that Trump would ruin the country even when he wasn’t running against him.

Not a fan, but he did support NATO and Ukraine and may have kept Trump from being worse.

Yeah, I know calling Graham a closeted gay man is an accepted thing, but is the only evidence that he never married or was never known to have a sexual relationship with a woman? Because that’s not proof.

I know. I’m a woman who’s never married or had a sexual relationship with a man. But I’m not a lesbian. I refer to myself as a faux-sexual. My male lovers are imaginary. I’ve always been like this, and I’m satisfied with it.

Not to derail the thread, but there are others like me. We do exist in both genders.

Anyway, Lindsey Graham was a bootlicking asshole, who made the world worse by aiding in the destruction of our democracy.

Regardless of his sexuality, he shouldn’t get any sympathy for that.

Good fucking riddance.

One question, did he die in front of a bunch of people of mixed political persuasions? Because I thought the new hot trend was to play Weekend at Bernie’s by spiriting away the bodies.

Too many people about my age are in the obituaries.

Rudy Giuliani

The issue isn’t that he was gay. The issue is that he was a fucking hypocrite about it, and supported a party and policies that made things demonstrably worse for gay people. Because he had enough power that he knew none of the bad things would happen or apply to him.

Fuck that dood.

No, I think Giuliani was really essentially broken by 9/11 and essentially had PTSD. He became a seething mass of hatred after that. Plus, I don’t think he was ever a never-Trumper the way that Graham was.

Not to defend him, but that still assumes he was gay. If he wasn’t gay, he wasn’t a hypocrite about it.

I wonder if Graham and Bessent ever had lifestyle conversations.

I guess we’ll find out shortly if and when the tell-all books are published.

I think, “a short and sudden illness,” is like a macro somewhere that automatically gets triggered whenever a rent-boy dials 911.

The Washington Post got hold of the 911 call, for a “heart attack or stroke” at his household. CPR was administered, and he was transported to a hospital.

That’s my guess, too. My father’s death certificate says “heart attack”, but the autopsy found a pulmonary embolism, that is, a blood clot in his heart. The symptoms at death are similar. (And most strokes are a blood clot in the brain.)

I mean, that just means “natural causes that were quick and unexpected”. :woman_shrugging: Lots of people legitimately die of “a short and sudden illness”. It’s how most of us would like to die, i think.

His lead in the polls was somewhere between 3-7%, which could ordinarily give Democrats a burst of hope. But it’s South Carolina and those people will probably rally around whatever Trump sycophant they find to replace him.

I think ‘Little’ Marco is almost as bad as Graham was.

I don’t know or care about the sexual preference of Lindsey. I was very disappointed in his treatment of Joe Biden and I can’t even imagine a mind that takes such a drastic turn in the way he supposedly felt about trump.

I hope he’s replaced with a democrat.

Graham is what you get when you force people to live a lie. His self loathing twisted him into someone who would say anything to be accepted by the people who hated his true self. He shamelessly pandered to Trump after initially calling him an out for being a lunatic and just pretended that he never those earlier criticisms. When you live in complete denial, what’s one more indignity?

In 2016 Trump called Graham “a ‘disgrace,’ ‘nut job,’ ‘one of the dumbest human beings’”.

Graham in 2023: “I’ve come to like President Trump, and he likes himself,” Graham quipped, “and we’ve got that in common.”

Graham became the most loathsome Trump sycophant in the Senate.

Sen. Bill Cassidy was in the running until he got primaried and rebelled a little.

Nice to think that Graham’s death will put Annie Andrews, a pediatrician, in the Senate. As the Dem. nominee she has been gleefully documenting Graham’s fawning pro-Trumpian excesses.

Just me, I guess, but I think of of an illness as something chronic, even if the period of illness is relatively brief.

A fatal heart attack is a brief and sudden illness in the same way that being crushed by a falling piano is, ISTM.