Senor Beef and his crusade against knowledge

Well, now I see where all the board rules about the consequences of posting off-topic are coming from…

Thank you! “beacon of enlightenment”, I rather like that.

But I still have no problem with “no spoilers”.

Man.

The Game of Thrones books are pages and pages and pages of mysterious buildup punctuated very occasionally by terrifying moments of gobsmacking insanity. There’s a thing that has happened already in the TV series that, when it happened – even though I don’t watch the show and am not at all plugged into what’s going on on TV in general – I was immediately aware it had happened from the simultaneously exploding heads of millions of Americans.

Those moments are why the TV show exists. I know what the next few of those moments are going to be. It would be a dick move to use that knowledge to affect other peoples’ experiences of watching the show. Dick moves are frowned upon, and that isn’t a new rule. Game of Thrones just happens to be kind of a unique example of a TV show that is almost entirely ruinable by many of us. It has its own rule. So what? Just shut the fuck up about the books. It’s not that hard, and it doesn’t cost you anything other than the right to determine how much of somebody else’s consumption of fiction you get to make about yourself instead of about the fiction. It’s not a special rule that’s going to affect any other part of anybody’s lives. Shut the fuck up about the books, you asshole, that’s the rule, and it’s a totally reasonable one.

So stop posting spoilers. Problem solved.

Fuck it, I’m gonna spoil all of Robert Heinlien. He bites it. There, spoiled.

But is it thread shitting if it’s true? :wink:

Yeah, and you were probably OK with Elves at Helm’s Deep, too!!

Just to be clear, I’m a big fan of the books and had absolutely no problem with Elves at Helm’s Deep

Yeah. What a tool. Anyone who disagrees basically gets called a poopy, meanie head and they question others’ behavior. Guffaw is right.

By the way, they still have no problems with spoilers. Just plenty with not being a rules-lawyering, annoying, pretentious dipshit.

But what about Elves surfing at Helm’s Deep? Turned your stomach a bit, didn’t it?

Sure, but I have no problem with a “no spoilers” rule. :stuck_out_tongue:

That can be fixed.

Too late, my urologist already “fixed” me.

Yeah, for all you anal nit-pickers:

[SPOILER]So anyhow, Beowulf and the weird guy head over to find the dragon, and after a couple of pages, Lo and/or Behold, a dragon! And…of course there’s a battle. Think Pokemon Silver, but with Brock vs Haxorus.

But, being Classic Literature, the dragon doesn’t just lie down, it has to chomp on ol’ Beowulf, who’s obviously got an allergy to dragon saliva, because that’s all it takes for him to check out. As in ‘die’.

Apologies to anyone who just hasn’t gotten around to reading in the last 1500 years.[/SPOILER]

What’s the point of talking about the books in a thread where everyone (or almost everyone) has agreed not to talk about the books?

If it’s to say that something happened differently, or that characters were combined or that someone has a larger role in the show than in the books – well, that might be harmless, but it’s also useless, and trivial.

So you keep saying. But I’m not buying it. I read the thread and didn’t see the the crusade against ignorance you accuse him of. Question, if you don’t have a problem with spoilers why do you have such a hard on for mentioning the books?

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It’s probably pretty rare that he goes into a thread and knows something about the topic most of the other posters there don’t, so he can’t help but celebrate it.

Ah, that explains why you’ve attracted such a massive chorus of support from the poor oppressed masses who have long been suffering in silence under the crushing heel of this rule.

In a thread full of inanities, it’s nice to get some really good news.

We should start a GoT thread with the book and the show spoilered. Nothing but nothing in the thread, rumors that there might be a, a thing called Game of Thrones, but no information about what it actually is. Is it, perhaps, a game?

I really like some of GRRM’s shorter stuff; Fevre Dreams is excellent. A Song of Ice & Fire (the name of the book series, wisely ditched for TV) started off quite good–it was not the Tolkien ripoff I’d expected. But the later volumes got bigger & more diffuse. GRRM didn’t think to make an outline & obviously resists editing. I read the first four volumes just before the show started; I read quickly. The fifth volume remains in my “to be read” stack.

First, the episode threads must remain absolutely spoiler-free for the benefit of those who haven’t read the books. Both to “save” events in the show and to let them discover the books, if they decide to read them later. So, no details on what already happened in the books, either. (Besides, the show & the books are diverging–generally to the benefit of the story.)

But I personally want the episode threads to remain spoiler-free (& without passive-aggressive references to the books) so the actual events in the actual show can be discussed. The “reader” threads tend to spend less time on comparing the two interpretations than they do on speculating about what might happen in the later books, if GRRM lives long enough to complete them. Very boring.

Game of Thrones is mostly an excellent show & I like to have threads devoted to discussing it. Besides, the books are fading in my memory. They are really not the sort of thing that I care to read again. Apparently some folks spent most of their adolescence reading & re-reading them, waiting for GRRM to finish the next volume. Really, there’s lots of other stuff worth reading. Some of it’s better. Gene Wolfe is my favorite writer of contemporary fantasy–but his stuff is too complex for many. And there’s stuff beyond fantasy, too…

Besides, the OP is consistently unpleasant in the episode threads. He read five books! Big Whoop…