Guys, let’s get things straight.
Adults give consent.
Children give assent.
Children are not cognitively formed to give consent, they give assent.
Guys, let’s get things straight.
Adults give consent.
Children give assent.
Children are not cognitively formed to give consent, they give assent.
This guy in the OP is channeling Larry David from the show Curb Your Enthusiasm. When I first read the OP I thought creepy, now I’m imagining wacky.
Can’t tell you why I didn’t say girl… however, they did say ‘girl’ on the radio show.
Somehow, shaving someone’s 7-year-old dog isn’t quite as good a thread topic…
exactly. kinda sad isn’t it? i wasn’t referring to complete strangers without parental permission. it’s a sad reflection of the society the child is raised in that any adults tasked with looking after a child need to protect themselves the way you’d described.
How would a 7yo know this? And my legs don’t sting after shaving, if I use body milk.
Another one who had, not so much hairy legs, but definitely fuzzy ones as a kid.
This.
Also, mens may not be aware of this, but the ‘shaving-the-legs’ thing is on a par with ‘getting-a-first-bra’ thing with moms. Moms set limits on ‘when you’re X years old you can do X’.
I’d be extremely pissed if I taught my daughter that she had to be 12 before she shaved her legs, to find out some other girls’ daddy had done it.
He should have asked the mom for permission at the very least.
I call shenanigans. This was a ploy for more radio play.
For a matter of perspective-when I worked in hospital, there were times I’d help on the med/surg floors. Doing surgical preps was one of those tasks. One day, I received a prep order for leg surgery, picked up the kit and found the patient to be a late teen female. No big deal-the order called for mid thigh to mid calf shave, and a 30 something lady was in the adjacent bed. No drape drawn-they chatted while I did the prep.
Shit hit the fan when a nursing supervisor passed the open door as I was finishing. Apparently it was verboten for a male tech to prep a female patient for any procedure, something they failed to tell me before the fact.
Did he have a shirt on this time?
Professional swimmers shave themselves all over (chest, arms, legs, feet) shortly before competition… it apparently gives greater sensation in the water, allowing you to gauge speed etc more accurately.
If there is no public story about it–i.e. if it’s not otherwise in the news–I think you can be confident it is fabricated for the sake of titillating the radio audience.
The behaviour claimed is so far out of line that had it actually happened, a great deal of newsworthy brouhaha would have resulted. Shawn Street’s IQ would not have been a defense anymore than the stupidity of any other pervert.
Haha in this day and age I’d be afraid to even touch a child under 18 that wasn’t my own for any reason, much less shave their legs. Like, I wouldn’t even give them a high five.
Creepy to the 10th power. Leg shaving is far too intimate to be doing to a non-related minor. If he had done that to my daughter I’d be in touch with the prosecutor.
Sure, but what *actual * charges would you ask (or expect) the Prosecutor to bring?
I’m curious about this aspect. Who was discussing the hairy legs - the adults, or the other children? If the adults, was it within earshot of the girl? If the kids, were they teasing her?
I’ve never run across a child that young being self-conscious about such a thing to point of not wanting to go swimming, and I’m wondering why that would be so.
Gary T,
I can’t provide any answers there.
That’s been in my mind too. If the story didn’t involve rampant stupidity to begin with, I’d say it would HAD to have been other kids; we all know little kids can be mean.
With this kind of stupid, though, I’m not going to handicap who first mentioned the leg hair…
Re: folks who think it’s a hoax
I wouldn’t be surprised for 5 seconds. The ‘Rover’ guy that hosts that show is a massive jerk on-air (and off, based on what one of my friends in radio says) and also a well-nigh-talentless hack.
I look after my nearly 3 year old grandson a couple of days a week.When he says he needs to use the toilet I do what his parents do and take him into the bathroom, lift him on to the toilet and clean him after he’s finished.
Are you saying that’s wrong? After all he’s not my child.
He didn’t say it was “wrong,” he said he’d be “afraid to do it.”
I think grandchildren or other closely relate children who are entrusted to your care don’t really count so much in the “don’t make yourself vulnerable” policy. It’s more about the children of strangers or of people you don’t know well. Even then there’s kind of a cutoff. I wouldn’t think anything of an uncle or a grandfather changing my two-year old’s diaper. Shaving my 7-year old’s legs, though? :dubious:
(Not that anyone in either mine or my wife’s family is creepy like that)
He didn’t say it was “wrong,” he said he’d be “afraid to do it.”
I think grandchildren or other closely relate children who are entrusted to your care don’t really count so much in the “don’t make yourself vulnerable” policy. It’s more about the children of strangers or of people you don’t know well. Even then there’s kind of a cutoff. I wouldn’t think anything of an uncle or a grandfather changing my two-year old’s diaper. Shaving my 7-year old’s legs, though? :dubious:
(Not that anyone in either mine or my wife’s family is creepy like that)
It was careless of me to use the word “wrong”.
Rigmarole actually said:
“Haha in this day and age I’d be afraid to even touch a child under 18 that wasn’t my own for any reason, much less shave their legs. Like, I wouldn’t even give them a high five.”
I can only assume that he wouldn’t change his grandchild’s nappy-I realise this is all hypothetical- reading his post.
What about helping a child in distress, where does it all end? which is the point I suppose I’m trying to make.
I agree with you about the creepiness of shaving another child’s legs as in the OP.