Originally Posted by roger thornhill:
Reminds me of grannies assaulting each other with handbags at dawn and then sitting down together to breakfast at a diner.
I kinda had ‘em down as that type, Ike. I’ll finds me a nice corner seat and pretend like I isn’t watchin’.
Well fucky you too, fucko.
Seems to me to be a decent response to your charges of partisanship.
But I highly doubt that Shodan could change your mind. Why? Because you’ve obviously been paying attention to his posts over the time you’ve been here and have come to develop an impression of him that won’t be easily replaced.
Then again, isn’t that was he was saying about you in the other thread? That he’s been paying attention to your posts and thinks that you wouldn’t mind so much if the machines erred in Kerry’s favor?
I don’t care one way or the other, since I would much rather see Michael Badnarik in the White House than either Bush or Kerry. But this partisan bitching back and forth between the Dems and the Pubbies is getting quite tiresome. “You’d rather the machines erred in your candidates favor!” “No, you would!” “No, you!” “You!” “You!” “I know you are but what am I?” “I know you are but what am I times infinity!”
Seriously, aren’t you tired of this yet?
Well, gee, not until you pointed out how empty and pointless it all is. I could spend my time better, I suppose. Take up macrame, never did that. Learn to knit. I could devote the time to a really intensive study of the foundations of Libertarian political philosophy. Or maybe read those Left Behind books. Take up drinking. Watch TV.
The glaring flaw in your argument is that I never pretended to know what Shodan would or would not do, I did not call him a liar who cared more about winning than getting a fair election, and I did not say that he valued his partisanship over getting an accurate vote count.
I did not make the charges against Shodan that he made against me. Try reading with a little comprehension from now on.
Or you could watch this.
Kind of heavy fare for the man from Nipples. Perhaps he’d prefer a bit of Lynne Cheney’s fluff:
Ooh Lah Lah! 
What I said was, I thought his link showed that he wasn’t as partisan as you said he was. Then I went off on a fairly irrelevant tangent (I admit that), and then you attempt to put words in my mouth.
I was just saying that Shodan is at least as partisan as I am, so it didn’t make sense for him to point to my own partsanship as evidence that I would be willing to win unfairly.
We can both be partisan and both still value an accurate vote count more than winning. That’s all I was trying to say.
Fair enough.
Well, yeah. And this is news?
Personally, I highly recommend model railroading. You can build your own little world, and you can give it whatever political system you want.
Unfortunately, however, it pretty much has to be a fascist state if you want the trains to run on time…
Not to mention a magical fantasyland, considering the fact that most model railroads run on electricity.
I’m pleased I could help you out. :rolleyes:
What the hell - one more go-around.
See, here is the basic problem, and the reason I find this more amusing than disturbing. You keep demonstrating my point for me.
Here is the original thread. Your first mention of your own partisanship came at 08-13-2004, 01:23 PM, post #23. This was after you started this Pit thread, in which you accused me of partisanship, at 08-13-2004, 11:31 AM.
In other words, your claim isn’t true. You did not admit that you were partisan before you Pitted me.
Now I don’t really doubt that you have convinced yourself that you genuinely did what you claimed, and made your own biases clear before you Pitted me for what you claim are my biases. But that is just the problem. You didn’t. Just the opposite is true - you were swearing up and down that you were not being partisan. It was only after I called you on it that you went back and came clean. And therefore, you are not a reliable witness, even of your own motivations. Your partisanship is so extreme that you can delude even yourself into thinking you did something you didn’t do, or say something that you didn’t say. Is it so much of a stretch to doubt that your protests about the election results might be based on something other than a fair-minded commitment to absolute truth?
And this -
So evidence that I am not a mindless Republican robot has nothing to do with accusations that I am a mindless Republican robot?
Weak - even by your standards, but let’s play the game, shall we? Show us a link to a thread in which you gave an equivalent amount of evidence that you can be fair-minded. Show us someplace where you said that Bush was doing a good job, or that the Republicans were right on some issue and the Democrats were wrong, or something equivalent.
Yet more evidence that you are not a reliable person.
As I said earlier, I don’t believe you, and we have seen some evidence as to why I shouldn’t, and don’t. This is why you were unable or unwilling to answer my hypothetical question about lawsuits and a close election. Because I deliberately left out the only piece of information that you require to decide how to regard the election - who won.
If Bush wins a close election and the Democrats file lawsuits challenging the results, you will automatically support the lawsuits. If Kerry wins a close election and Republicans file lawsuits challenging the elections, you will start Pit threads screaming obscenities at them for doing so. If Kerry wins the popular vote and loses the electoral college, you will regard the Bush victory as illegitimate. If Bush wins the popular vote and loses the electoral college, you regard the Kerry victory as entirely legitimate.
So will every other knee-jerk liberal on the SDMB. So you won’t be likely to feel lonely.
Regards,
Shodan
Boy, its tough to contend with people who are, like, clarovoyant and stuff, can see the future, already know what people are going to do, and say.
You’re probably thinking that if Kerry crushes Bush like a bug, we’ll be rushing here to laugh at you and say “Neener-neener!” and just generally cavort and frolic and make derisive jokes at your expense…
Well, Diogenes might, but I have entirely too much dignity to hit somebody when they’re down. Besides, kicking, you don’t have to bend over…
Shodan has a point, though. I’m one of the more conservative members of the SDMB, safe to say. Yet I compliment Democrats where such compliments are due, and give them due respect.
You won’t ever hear complimentary remarks about Republicans from Diogenes. That would be far too threatening to his worldview.
I’m open minded on that subject. If GeeDubya (Praise the Leader!) can give a really graceful and polite concession speech come November, I’ll be willing to let bygones be bygones. Just so long as they’re gone.
Jesus, {Shodan**, are you a masochist or something? Didn’t you get enough of a bitch-slapping yet? That’s ok, let me get my pimp stick out.
Nope. Sorry, fuckface. I never said I wasn’t partisan. You are a liar. What I said (like a billion times) was that a fair election was more important to me than my partisanship. This concept of prioritizing values seems to be incomprehensible to you.
You didn’t call me on anything, liar. You lied and I busted you on it.
I know it’s a stretch for YOU because you are a mindless idealogue with no greater concept of prioritizing philosophical values. Therefore you think everyone else must be like you are. I happen to have a little more depth than you do. Sorry to break it to you, you fucking dittohead.
Why should I say that Bush is doing a good job if he isn’t. What stupid, fucking disingenuous measure of objectiveity. Guess what, cocksmoke, I have, on occasion, said good things about Republicans, including. Bush Sr. John McCain, Bob Dole and Colin Powell. But that’s beside the fucking point you miserable, smug little shitstain. No matter how strongly I may feel about my political ideology, it’s NOT the most important value I have. My family, for instance, is far more important than any election. The integrity of the American Democratic system is as well.
Yet more evidence that you are not a reliable person.
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Fucking liar. Ponty up the cite, bitch. Show me where I said that you valued partisanship more than a fair election. I said you were a mindless republican robot and you are. That doesn’t mean that’s all you are. That’s just how you are politically. I don’t make the mistake (as you apparently do) of thinking that another person’s politics are his highest priority. I think you’re an unreflective partsian hack when it comes to politics. I also think that you probably value some things more than you’re politics. Is this sinking in at all?
I’m a big Vikings fan. I hate the Packers. I have nothing good to say about the Packers. Would then say it’s rational to conclude that I want the Vikings to win by nefarious means? It’s bullshit.
I no longer give a fuck.
No, liar, you have NOT shown any such evidence.
God, you really are deluded. I didn’t answer your idiotic question because you didn’t say what the dispute was, you fucking idiot. You just said “The loser disputes the results, who do you suuport?” It fucking depends on what the fucking objection is, moron. Give me a goddamn hypothetical with some goddamn data and I’ll answer the goddamn question. You have to give a specific reason that the loser is objecting otherwise your question can’t be analyzed.
So will every other knee-jerk liberal on the SDMB. So you won’t be likely to feel lonely.
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Did it make you feel good to type this? I think you need to recalibrate your crystal ball, Kreskin, because you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
And you know that because you’ve read every post I’ve ever made, right?
Prove me wrong, then.