False rape accusations (those that are provable false – like she or he was caught on camera being in another city at the time or something, and not just a different interpretation of what happened on the night) should be prosecuted as a crime doing harm to the extend the man would have suffered had he been convicted. Plus an extra sentence for wasting police and court resources.
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25% of men will rape to get sex … seriously?
We have defamation laws. If someone attempts to harm you by defaming your character, you can sue for damage.
What more do you want?
Yeah…somebodies credibility bus just went off a cliff and burst into flames mid air…
I’m basing that on the surveys that show where the prevailing conditions allow for it, 20- 25% of men do rape - See e.g. South Africa, Cambodia, China…
You have numbers that dismiss my numbers? Bring them.
Yeah, false allegations never happen. No woman ever lies.
Naah, only Women made of Straw don’t lie, everyone know that.
Still waiting, billfish…
I live in Cambodia these days. Many Khmer women are seeking out white Western men not least because they have a reputation for being gentlemen, who do not hit/rape women. I guess that’s white privilege and I check it out daily. Can’t say I see much reason to change anything, since the reputation has not come about ex nihilo, and I’m not about to start beating up girls to dismantle a privilege.
Rape is almost never prosecuted here, but I hardly see any comparison to the USA / Europe.
Oh, you meant the crappy countries.
Maybe you should move to a country with a better class of people.
Oh, meant to say “rappy” countries, not “crappy”.
Let me toss out another policy reason that the penalty for a false accusation should not be so devastating: it might deter a woman who falsely accused from recanting.
good point…
I agree that the penalty for false accusations should be lighter, possibly nonexistant, if the accuser recants on their own initiative. Obviously getting the innocent man out of prison is more important than punishing the false accuser. But that doesn’t mean you can’t punish false-accusers who maintain their lies and are discovered in other ways.
You think there’s something fundamentally different in the male mentality in those countries, that 25% of them are, as you put it, “sociopaths”, and the “non-crappy” countries have a better class of men? What would that fundamental difference be?
Well, SOMETHING is different.
It’s interesting how discussions comparing different societies often involve claims along the lines of “this is how men and women are; they will never change” and “that is how people in that society are; they will never change.”
Is it the innate characteristics of the men there, or is it the fact that they’re crappy countries with broken law systems, so the characteristics which are innate to 25% of men everywhere can freely express themselves?
Because, given the behaviour of men from the “classier” (:rolleyes:) countries historically, say in Europe and Japan at the end of WWII, I’m inclined to say it’s the latter. At least 25% of men anywhere are going to rape if they think they can get away with it.
Also, I note you still haven’t actually challenged the numbers. I guess this bus is still on the road…
I think we’d get better results by trying to dissuade them from making the false accusations in the first place rather than making it easy for them to recant. I think it’s less likely that someone who would make such an accusation is suddenly going to see the error of their ways than they are to consider that they may be throwing their own life away before they make it.