Should NAMBLA be treated different from other political groups

[Alex_Dubinsky]

I think children should have as much of a right to have sex with people as anyone else. Arguments that it damages them are ludicrous. KIDS HAVE SEX DRIVES. HOLY SHIT! When did you guys start jacking off? When would you guys have started jacking off had you know about it sooner? Arguments that kids cannot give consent are ludicrous too. Kids can want stuff. Kids can want to have sex. Ergo, kids can consent to have sex with someone, because they want to.

All your arguments have precisely three sources: squemishness, social indocrination, and forgetting what it was like to be a child.

Mind you, I’m neither gay nor even old enough to be a pedophile. But had there been a NAWBLA when I was growing up, I would’ve joined in a heart-beat.

As far as whether they can consent in some other sense, or whether they’re equipped emotionally, let me ask you this: Can you give consent? Are you equipped emotionally for sexual relationships? If you answered yes, suppose I don’t believe you - prove it. Convince me you’re mature enough to consent to sex. Now do you really think there’s no one under 18, 16, or your favorite state’s age of consent who fits the same criteria that you just used to prove your own maturity?

well put.

At least according to everything I’ve heard (I’m not going to check their website, especially not while I’m at work) they favor getting rid of age of consent laws entirely. That’s certainly a new idea for changing the law. And that’s not a proposal that fits with the idea of a rational discussion of age of consent - it’s a proposal that fits with an agenda of being able to molest children freely.

No, molestation is doing something to someone who is unwilling. Children can be as unwilling as adults, and no law should be repealled against molestation or rape.

I just disagree that your assertion that anyone young is automatically unwilling. it’s ludicrous.

Again, when you’re talking about an organization whose members - most of them, anyway - want to have sex with prepubescent children, then they’re not going to contribute relevantly to any discussion about age of consent laws, because it’s clearly not in society’s interest to make sex with eight-year-olds legal.

Are they really for sex with prebuscent children? That would automatically mean the child has no sex drive, and i agree that arguing for that doesn’t make any sense. However, I think they’re arguing to be able to have sex with boys who want to have sex with them, and feelings such as those may start at around the age of 11 (at least that’s when I began to develop sexual desires).

Sex with prebuscent children is wrong (or at least you can be sure they’re not getting anything out of it). Sex with pubescent children… when I was a kid, I sure didn’t want to have laws forbidding people from having sex with me. What do you think my fantasies were about?

NAWBLA! NAWBLA!