I’ve never liked public displays of affection beyond a hug or a hand-hold. Getting on the train and seeing two people sucking face really makes me feel uncomfortable - I don’t know where to look… and you can’t help but hear it if you’re close enough. Yick, I don’t need that.
So the same principle applies for a school yearbook - I don’t want to see any kind of romantic entanglements in there - it’s an inappropriate place for it.
When I’m trying to eat my lunch it is a bad thing. Besides, if all that kissing made some students uncomfortable wouldn’t that count as a hostile work environment?
Marc
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Just stare at 'em. Either they’ll get uncomfortable having your eyes riveted on them, and they’ll stop, or they’ll become exhibitionists and put on a good show for you. Either way, you win. 
I think that if a yearbook is willing to print photos of hetero couples kissing then they should be willing to include photos of same-sex couples. I would use this as a general rule, but to make an educated decision about whether it should be included I would want to know about the content of the photo and the context in which it was used. In high school I worked on the yearbook and the newspaper, and the context of photos matter a lot. For example, a small photo should be considered differently than a gigantic dominant photo, and the caption would make a lot of difference in the case of a controversial photo.
Why does everyone think kissing in public is rude? Personally, i don’t mind it, and i even get jealous of the two people enjoying themselves. Now i’m not gonna get all huffy-puffy and get angry at them because they’re having fun and i’m not. I think it’s rude for fat people to wear spandex, but if i got miffed about it, people would be all over me!!
My point is, just because you can’t get a peice of that action, doesn’t mean you should try to stop them from having fun. And don’t deny it, you want a peice of that action when you see that action.
And to the lesbians, if you don’t like horny men gauking at you, do it in private. If you don’t, be prepared for the consequences.
Just so long as you feel this same way about hetero kissing.
My dad graduated from Ohio University in 1973. In the yearbook, there is a photo of a naked boy (probably about 2 or 3 years old) and the boy’s mom casually walking along a sidewalk in Athens, Ohio. (And in the background, there’s some woman, apparently in her mid 50s, with a kind of sneering, incredulous look on her face.) Of course, that was a time when the hippie culture was still hanging on in big college towns. In the portrait section of that yearbook, it seemed like all the guys had either Martin Van Buren mutton-chop sideburns (like my dad), a Brady Bunch perm, or an Afro, and almost everyone was wearing outlandish clothes.
The whole point of yearbooks is to shock you silly when you dust it off 15 to 20 years later. And if one of those girls in the same sex kiss goes on to become the next Phyllis Schlafly or Dr. Laura, well wouldn’t that be a rather delicious revelation when the media gets their hands on the yearbook? (Though of course, it is well-documented that such hypocrisy is par for the course among the “pure” defenders of morality and decency–Dr. Laura, Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson, Dr. Laura, Bob Barr, Newt Gingrich, Henry Hyde, etc. Do as I say, not as I do.)
As I see it, if people are engaged in consensual behavior, and there’s no rational reason to believe that they’re causing any harm, why should I get all hot and bothered about what they’re doing? (any more than I would get hot and bothered about wacky 70’s hairdos and clothes) Some people act like a same-sex kiss is the end of civilization, yet turn their eyes away from the real, substantial evils in our world that cause profound human suffering everyday. I would consider murder, rape, genocide, corporate welfare, racism, famine, pestilence, and nonsensical religious and ethnic feuds to be more pertinent concerns to address if we want a society that is better grounded in “decency”. “Heather Has Two Mommies” didn’t make Tim McVeigh blow up a crowded building, but right-wing anti-government rants gave him a nifty way to rationalize what he did. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold didn’t shoot up their high school because they saw a Richard Simmons infomercial or heard that Ellen Degeneres came out of the closet. Homosexuality didn’t cause the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the mess in the former Yugoslavia, the British-IRA skirmishes, the Holocaust, the Iranian hostage crisis, or the breakup of the Beatles. Rather, most of the profound evils in the world got started because people became slaves to their irrational fears, and condemned whatever they could not understand.
:rolleyes:
Which consequences are you referring to? Possibly becoming an interestingly colored smear on the pavement, being propositioned for threesomes, something else? 'Cause you never know what those uppity queers might consider “the consequences.”
Regarding my first post to this thread- providing that the girls knew that the photo was going to be running, were out to their parents, and ready for any backlash, I think it should have been run.
By consequences i mean being gauked at, and yes, being propostioned. I don’t think being killed is much of a threat anymore, at least not in anywhere but the south.
And yes, i do feel the same way about hetero kissing. I’m not a hipocryte.
Tell that to Brandon Teena, Billy Jack Gaither, and Matthew Shephard.
So, people who kiss their SOs in public should just expect to be propositioned by strangers? What kind of freaky universe are you living in, ssj_man2k? I know that if I see two people involved in any sort of public romantic display then it’s a pretty safe bet that those two people are a couple, and are unlikely to welcome sexual advances from other people.
By the way, I think andygirl’s post was not so much about lesbians getting gawked at for kissing in public, but the way that the very idea of lesbian sex or anything relating to lesbian sex is treated. A woman need do nothing more than say she is a lesbian and there are plenty of guys who will ask if they can watch her “get it on” with another woman or try to talk her into a threesome.
I really wish I had known this in high school. That way when I was slammed against a locker and told that I deserved to be gang raped, I could have said, “Wait, you can’t hurt me! Delaware is a border state!”
By the way, you’re saying “at least not in anywhere but in the south” like that’s a remotely acceptable thing.
See, now these people should just be shot.
Think again and think fast.
Even though the they showed the picture , the local paper
and TV news didn’t really say anything about context of it
I really don’t understand why guys want to watch lesbians.
I personally would not care to see ‘girl/girl action’
or for that matter ‘boy/girl action’ or ‘boy/boy action’
as I said earlier, to me public kissing (or any public
showing of affection for that matter) is rude.
the last thing I want to see is 2 people slobbering (my
word for kissing) over each other. I’ve seen plenty of
straights but i’ve never seen a Gay or Les kiss in public…
Maybe they just aren’t as rude?
Or Maybe they just don’t want to get shot?
but in any case I would do as I do when the TV shows a
slobber session (kiss) and turn away.
Regarding same sex kissing in a yearbook, I feel the same way some others do- no kissing photos should really be in a yearbook, due to simple privacy issues for the kids. Maybe the student doesn’t want the world to know she’s dating Brad/Joe/Brenda/Heather, whatever the case may be.
Regarding “hot lesbian action”, grow up already. Other people’s sexuality is none of your damned business. Anyone who meets a woman who is a lesbian and makes “threesome” invites or wants to watch has some serious maturing to do.
Zette
Unless, of course, that sexuality involves being a hetero male who is turned on by lesbians, in which case it is your business, and you should condemn them immediately.
wow, i really make people mad.
I didn’t say they should be expected to be propositioned, im just saying it could happen, and they shouldn’t get all miffed if it does. And when i said anywhere but in the south, i just was making a point that the south is a lot less open minded then other states. Hate crimes do happen in other states, they are just more likely to happen in the south, i believe.
And i have yet to meet a guy face to face who doesn’t like lesbian action, or pornography for that matter. Maybe i don’t leave town enough. Pornography and masturbation are gods greatest gift to ugly men, that and hookers.
Would anyone else like to berate me?
I suppose you would not bat an eye if a strange man who happened to see you exchanging a quick smooch with your girlfriend came up and asked the two of you to join him in a romp between the sheets? Be honest now.
You know, it’s no more right to be prejudiced against Southerners than it is to be prejudiced against any other group of people.
Bad bad mistake not to allow one kissy kissy and allowing the other kissy kissy in the yearbook. Now they are having the entire high school exploring their homosexuality.