Contract employees get a flat salary. If we worked an extra hour, working 11 to 7 last night. Do we get anything? Except the privilege of keeping our jobs?
Should we get any compensation for that extra hour? I never got paid extra for covering Call at night.
This was me for many years and yes, we got paid for that extra hour. At 2am the time clock shifted back an hour just like all the other clocks so as far as it – and HR – was concerned we worked a 9 hour shift, which of course we had. If that put us into OT for the week, well thems the breaks. It’s not like they could simply pretend that extra hour didn’t exist.
From my midnights/3rd-shift days, DST endings the employee has the option of either leaving at the new normal end-of-shift time ( though with one hour less pay ) or staying an extra hour in order to attain the full 8 hours of pay. I always chose the former.
It would be useful if all the OP’s
references in all their posts were changed from 11-7pm to the correct 11pm-7am.
As it’s written, he’s talking about 11 Sat morning to 7pm Sat evening which is about 7 hours before the DST changeover even happened.
The short answer of course is hourly employees are paid for the duration actually worked, regardless of what times the clock says they started or stopped.
When I worked DST and worked an extra hour, I was paid an hour of overtime.
When I started working and I worked DST and lost an hour, I had a choice. I could lose an hour of pay or I could stay an extra hour past my normal leaving time so I worked a full eight hour shift. This was later changed and I left at my regular time and got paid for an eight hour shift, even though I had only been there seven hours.
But here’s an important note; I was paid hourly wages. I was not on a straight salary. (In fact, I turned down supposed promotions that would have put me on a salary because I was making more money on wages.)
When I was a graveyard shift 7-11 cashier in the early 1990s in Oregon, yes, I did get paid that extra hour if I worked the night we fell back. Boss very likely didn’t like it, being the miserly sort, but he didn’t really have a choice. I was there and working for 9 actual hours, he was required to pay me for said 9 hours. OTOH, I did lose that hour if I worked the night we sprang forward, on similar logic. I was there and working for 7 actual hours, he only had to pay me for said 7 hours.
What happens for people who are not allowed to work that extra hour? Truck drivers, pilots, etc are required by law to take rest breaks.
(for example: I have been on plane flights that got cancelled because the flight attendants were required to stop working after x hours, and the new crew didn’t arrive on time.)
In high school, I worked in a grocery store using a time clock to punch in/out, and once worked the midnight shift during the Fall time change. I clocked in at 11 p.m. and 8 hours later, clocked out at 7 a.m. Afterward, the bookkeeper turned the clock back one hour.
In the airline biz, time changes happen every single day as we move from time zone to time zone. Often several times during one workday, or across several hours of timezones.
The answer is that everything is computed in a single consistent time zone: UTC. And converted to local time for display purposes.
It still takes e.g. 9-1/2 hours to fly from ABC to DEF no matter what the clocks at one or both ends are doing. Actual elapsed duration is actual elapsed duration.
You said it yourself: regulations dictate that the crew is required to stop working after x hours. Has nothing to do with the wall-clock time.(which will anyway vary wildly since they are flying over long distances).
