Oops. “Her” means Emily’s mother. But I’m sure that was easy to figure out.
I’ve never seen the show but I caught them on Oprah. Mr. Nutter came off badly. I actually think it’s ok what he did, following his dream to become an actor if his family supports that but why push all his kids and wife into acting too? He totally lost me ( and the audience) after that. I looked at his perfectly coiffed, trendily dressed kids and wanted to muss up their hair, give them non-styled bangs, smear grass stains on their knees and wipe the glossed make-up off his pre-teen daughters!
Once again, I only caught half the show, and there wasn’t much going on. Some of my idle thoughts:
- I’m getting a David Koresh, Jim Jones vibe off of FlufferNutter. Not that he’d do the entire family in (there’s too many of them and the oldest son could break him like a twig), but there is a cult-like feel to the whole family dynamic. I can understand a father having dreams of being an actor, hell, I’d love to be marine biologist. But to make your wife and kids give up everything they new and put them in a a 2 bedroom apartment in NY so you can chase your dream (both for yourself and by proxy through your kids) is nearly unforgivable. Also, as an aside, I sincerely dislike Fluffer because I dislike (allegedly) straight men who put on the sterotypical gay affect (his speech pattern, etc.) in an attempt to succeed in theater. To me, it is the same as middle class white suburban youths co-opting the hip hop culture. Yet another reason to be annoyed by him.
And I’m willing to chip in a couple of bucks to buy a spine for MaNutter. She needs one.
- The TyeMeUpAndTakeMeToAPagent clan must be stupider than a box of rocks to not realize they are constantly being fleeced. Beauty Boot Camp. $500 dress. Entrance fees to the pagents. Just goes to show that a fool and her money are soon parted. I also am begining to dislike FauxJonBenet as a kid. Granted her mother is mostly at fault, but I’m seeing the kid less and less as a victim of her mother’s pathology, and more and more like a whiny little brat. I have a 3 year old girl (wayyyyyy cuter than FauxJon) who will, on occassion act in that manner, but those incidents are few and far between, and NEVER rewarded with a bride.
In MomBenet’s defense, I will say that bribery is extremely useful in raising a child. However, MomBenet has screwed it up (like everything else) by being inconsistent and rewarding poor behavior. She’s teaching her kid all the wrong things.
And I’ll also chip in a couple of bucks to hire someone to kidnap FauxJonBenet to save her from herself and her mother.
- I gotta go with Eve’s spot on assessment of Lil’ Jordan’s abilities. In the first three episodes, I was impressed, but seeing last nights, I’m not so sure anymore. While she’s really cute and all, she’s also quite overblown in her acting, almost to the point of annoying. Of course, she gets all the slack in the world from me, because she’s the only one on the whole show who I like.
I think she’ll be fine, so she won’t need my couple bucks.
- While Shame is completely lacking in any discernable talent (other than looking good), he still is better than his backup group, which is something I guess. The auditions his mother held for his backup dancers was painful to watch. It struck me that as sad, pathetic and delusional Shame and ShameMom are, there are even more kids and more parents that are even more sad, pathetic and delusional. I did feel bad when Shame and ShameMom were told the wrong day and had to make a tough decision. But at least we see Mom’s true colors.
I’ll chip in more than a couple bucks to get some serious anti-delusion medication for both Shame and ShameMom.
- Of all the people on the show, the ones I have absolutely no pity for are FauxJonBenetMom and TeenAngstJordan. I don’t know why, but I think she has no talent, no drive, no concern for others, and no idea what she is going. She doesn’t practice her lines, she doesn’t appear to audition all that well (though having the Bravo cameras there will land her a part or two, as evidenced by this week), and her mom couldn’t find her ass with both hands and an Idiot’s Guide to Finding Your Own Ass. And I’m amazed that their excited about a $50 paycheck, a crappy hotel room, and working with Heidi Fleiss (who looked awful by the way). Messed up.
I’ll chip in a couple bucks for the GPS too.
But I’ll still be watching next week. Damn me.
I agree that she’s overacting, but if you’ve (accidently) seen any Nickelodeon show with live kids (as opposed to dead?), they all think they need to use the theatre version of acting, with over-enunciation and all. She’ll fit in nicely.
Please, please, please may I use this as my sig? I’ll credit you, I promise! I’m still tittering. 
Her mother said she “booked the role,” which I would think makes her more than an extra, escpecially if the role has a name. I don’t know if the kid is union but if she is she should maybe have a talk with a SAG rep about how people keep getting away with paying her $50 and a hotel room or, in last week’s show, nothing.
I quit watching Nickelodeon when “You Can’t Do That on Television” was cancelled, so I really can’t compare.
It’s all yours. I’m not sure I can take complete credit for it, because I might have heard it elsewhere, but it’s all yours.
As an aside, I’ve been tooling around IMDB about these people and here’s some highlights:
TeenAngstJordan’s 12 minute film. The taglines scare the ever-living Bejeezers out of me:
He said, “P.E.” They said…“F. You.”
and
Three 7th grade girls. One P.E. teacher. No contest.
Creepyville.
I know that was an innocent typo, but I just choked on my grapefruit juice . . .
Little Hamletette: But Daaaaaadddddyyyy. I want some candy. NOOOOOOOWWWWWW!!!
Hamlet: No honey. You have to behave yourself.
Little Hamletette: WWWWaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!
Hamlet: OK. OK… If you stop crying, we’ll stop at the Justice of the Peace’s on the way home and you can pick out any bride you want.
Little Hamletette: I want the one in the pretty dress.
Thanks. It’s a gem. I’ll credit you anyway. 
I have to say that the person I really felt sorry for was Shane. The mother is so delusional, to the point of giving away signed head-shots of him to her buyers. It’s so sad as he clearly has no talent. I mean, he really seems like a nice kid, and he’s obviously trying really hard, but he just doesn’t have it. She; on the other hand, is to choreography what Elvis is to wood-working. And she has bad hair.
Here’s something I don’t understand: What is the pay-off with the pageants? If your kid ends up an actor or singer, there’s fame and fortune (and a nasty drug habit) right around the corner, but what do you get for your investment in pageants? Speaking of pageants; MomBenet reminds me of the dog owners in “Best in Show”. Maybe FauxJon is just getting her championship points so that her off-spring will be more valuable.
Since I don’t have any of my own, will someone explain to me if FauxJon is a “normal” four year old? She seems a little babyish to me. I seems like my nieces and nephews had bigger and better vocabularies and spoke more clearly than she does. Also, I don’t recall any of my siblings physically carrying around their four-year-olds.
Can you believe TeenAngstJordan’s mom is only 34? I was shocked! I would have guessed she was in her 40s. Apparently have a bratty kid really ages you.
The FlufferNutters just make me shake my head. Nine people in a two room apartment? The worst part is NutDad’s attitude. I mean he seems to really not understand why everyone is so cranky. What a self-centered ass.
I just don’t get any of these people.
Isaiah (the 9-year-old) started crying while his Dad was droning on and on about how much the dream means to him. It was quiet sobbing, but you could see him behind his Dad. Oprah noticed it and asked him why he was upset, but his lip quivered and he shrugged off the question. She didn’t press on. It seems to me that his kids love him so much that they will do anything to please him including give up their own childhoods. All this while a psychologist sat beside him and tried to explain how sick it all was.
I haven’t been watching the show, but as someone who knows the Nutters in a not-too intimate way, I can vouch for the fact that that family is quite messed up. It’s really twisted.
sigh
The sad thing is there are people who think it’s so wonderful that they’re ‘pursuing their dreams’. Whatever.
I saw a few minutes of the Nutter clan on Oprah. I couldn’t watch for long. Daddy was talking about how the kids don’t like auditions and such, and little Isaiah started crying. Oprah asked him what was wrong, and he couldn’t answer.
That made me change the channel. Jordan is growing up fast, though. The half a second I saw of her made her seem like she was clearing up and losing some baby fat.
As for the makeup, I blame Oprah’s staff. Did you see the mom? She was caked, and I don’t remember seeing her in makeup (or not much, anyway) on the show.
I saw the show for the first time last night, after having watched the Oprah show. I’m just sad I missed the previous episodes.
Father Nutter is amazingly self-absorbed. The way he went off on those producers–who were really trying to be helpful–was reminiscent of his embarrassing performance on Oprah. The constant flow of defensive jibber-jabber, none of it making any sense, is exhausting to listen to. My dream, what I want, my desire, my goal. Ugh, it’s disturbing. I think the only reason Mama Nutter didn’t pick up and leave was because of the cameras.
Where do the kids sleep in that tiny apartment? And isn’t that illegal, having so many people in one place?
I agree that the pageant girl seems immature. Something about what the mother said on either Oprah or the show hit me: something about how the girl always cries and acts up before getting on the stage, and then she’s all smiles. The mother took this as a sign that the child likes being on stage. I took it to mean that the girl is so scared of disappointing her mother that she’s able to shut off her emotions and instantly put on a giant happy fake smile.
BigJordan was annoying as she kept calling Heidi Fleiss a prostitute. Um, she was a pimp, not a prostitute. Get it right, young lady!
I thought little Jordan was cute, but precocious kids always skeeve me out. I like her mother more than I like her. I laughed when she bid the other mothers at the audition good-bye, like they’re all old pals.
The meltdown for Shane was over-the-top, as was the mother’s coddling of him. And the backup dancers? What the hell? I suppose I’d be having a nervous breakdown too if I was going on stage with that crew.
Oh, I’d forgotten the part about Mamma Shame’s boss going on about what a great real-estate agent she is, and then cutting to her trying to pawn autographed photos of Shame off onto her obviously nonplussed clients.
I am more and more convinced Ma Kettle sticks with FlufferNutter because of some religious cult and/or ex-gay ministry. Only explanation.
I can some up the Father Nutter experience on Oprah in three words.
I Me Mine.
I Me Mine.
I Me Mine.
I stumbled upon it on the late-night re-run and sat there for almost an hour flipping that caca-cake off. (Yeah, and my middle finger really started to cramp after awhile!)
Later, I was so mad I had trouble falling asleep. Wowie, the ability to delude oneself astounds. (I’m talking about Mrs. NutterButter here.)
I have never, ever seen anyone as delusional as Debbie Klingensmith. That backup dancer audition was maybe the saddest thing I have ever seen. While calling a mother whose child missed one ‘rehearsal’: “I can’t take a little girl who doesn’t know the routine and put her up on the stage, in front of 10,000 people, at the Raymond James stadium.” And then she’s fired, because that’s showbiz. Alright, crazy – whatever.
The hotel that Heidi’s film put AngstJordan into was just the nastiest little fleabag, wasn’t it? Neither Jordan nor her mother seemed aware that the hotel was just gross. As Otto points out, this Heidi Fleiss movie isn’t even listed in the IMDb, so it must be some sort of D movie. Her mother’s talking about her dreams of being an actress and her denial that she’s living vicariously through her children were completely predictable. I had guessed early on that she had had acting aspirations, so this was absolutely no surprise.
Fluffy? No one – no one – thinks that you are sucking off your wife. However, I think your wife is sucking you off while you pretend she’s a man. Because you’re gay. You’re gay, alright? Such an incredible closet case. It is my firm belief that Mr Nutter spent some time with Exodus Ministries, and then he went forth and multiplied, naming all his kids from the Bible, except Junior (who is quite the little hottie. Duncan, Jr, if you need somewhere to live, let me know.). It is also my firm belief that when his homosexuality reasserts itself, his entire family will end up in years of therapy. I’m also really, really peeved by those little guilt games he plays on the phone with his wife.
That little schtick about him starting to train as an Olympic gymnast when he was 19 was revealing. How could he possibly think that he could enter the sport so damned late? Because he’s crazy.
I also think that Emily is significantly developmentally delayed, and it has nothing to do with anything physical. Children don’t develop language and social skills without exposure to varied language and social settings. Emily’s life is so centered around the pageant world that I can’t see how she has any time to play with other children or to talk and read with her mother. She’s going to enter elementary school at a severe disadvantage, and if her mother’s current habits are any indication, that disadvantage will continue – I believe that her mother won’t put the proper priority on learning and homework and will also preempt school for pageants.
And again, the only normal kid in this entire mess – Jordan Moseley – gets a pass from me. Her acting is a little overemphatic, but it is totally within the standards of a Nickelodeon (note the spelling, Bravo producers) or Disney TV production.
No, she’s not normal at all. I mentioned this in last week’s thread. I teach Preschool and have four-year-olds in my regular class. I also do an afternoon group of three-year-olds, and even the threes are more mature than Emily-Jon-Benet. I wonder if she goes to any type of Preschool or even a normal play group, outside of Beauty Boot Camp, where she plays like a real kid, with kids who aren’t in the pageant circuit.
If she’s four, she should be getting ready for Kindergarten next Fall. She’s going to be at a serious disadvantage if she’s never been to anything “school-like” and doesn’t know her shapes and colors and can’t play in groups with other regular kids. And that thumb-sucking has got to stop. Other kids are going to tease her.
Well, in all seriousness, lets not forget that we’re only being shown what the producers want us to see. I agree that her development doesn’t look good, but then, perhaps thats what we’re supposed to think.
… I hope.