I don’t think so, but then people seldom do. More importantly, the American people are not the Borg; they have individual variation. Just because I consider America as a whole evil doesn’t mean every single American is evil, obviously.
Tsk. Sloppy editing. Not you, Cid, the bonehead who put the headline “Bomb Explodes in Tehran” over a story about a bomb exploding in Zahedan, way off to the southeast in Iranian Baluchistan.
If I were Khamenei, I wouldn’t worry much about this militant Sunni group, Jundallah, destabilizing the regime. They can never have any broad mass appeal; Iran’s population is only 9% Sunni (And only 2% Balochi.)
The message that the American neocons really, really want to regime-change both their countries? (Anybody who reads the newspapers can figure that out.) The message that they need to work together against the common enemy? Pardon me, but why is that a message we should want to send them? Wouldn’t a “divide and rule” approach be more effective?
This is as perplexing as your statements above in posts #72 and 76, above. We use military action in Iraq to “send a message” “farther eastward” – and Russia, China and India respond by pledging to work for a “multipolar world” (exactly the opposite of the one-superpower world Bush and the neocons want so desperately to perpetuate) – in other words, they are agreeing to cooperate with each other to frustrate the actions of the U.S. – and this is a success for the Bush Admin’s foreign/military policy? How?
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Why would this invasion affect Turkey’s internal policies?
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IYO, would a Kurdish rebellion in Turkey be good or bad?
Why? Turkey is no military threat to Europe.
Good people, for the most part. Guess what? That makes no difference. There’s only so much good people can do when bad leaders have put them in an impossible situation doing an impossible job with insufficient resources and with insurgents tearing things down faster than the Americans can build them. In case you have missed it, despite all their efforts, there is practically no humanitarian or civil reconstruction getting done in Iraq.
If we don’t know about them, how do you know they happened?
And quit talking about “the Coalition.” It’s just us and the Brits, now. There are a few thousand troops remaining from other countries but nothing would change if they left. It will change things when the Brits leave, and believe me, they will, long before we do.
All true. All very true.
Why didn’t the Bush Admin and all its history-schooled neocon think-tankers think of that in the first place, I wonder?
:mad: Oh, yeah?! Well, they can’t prove our government sold them those! 
“Nasty suspicions,” bullocks. Sadly enough, it’s a fact. I meam look at this very board where "some of the best and the brightest from both sides are supposedly posting. And yet a significant number of them know (or knew) little about the PNAC and their foreign policy designs for American global hegemony.
Ignorance? Hope so. Outright greed and power grabs? Certainly hope not. But then why is Bush still in the WH?
Accountability, friend, ought to amount to a bit more than some backpedaling Democrats – and a few Republicans. Day late and a dollar short as the saying goes. Never mind the lame opposition towards opening-up yet another front with the same kind of BS that it was done in Iraq.
OTOH, I honestly hope your country can somehow extricate itself from the mess they’ve made of the ME. Afraid to say I have no idea how, as all there appear to be at the moment are bad and worse, decisions.
As someone said upthread (or it might have been elsewhere, the search function is nearly useless 2nite) and I paraphrase: “What makes you think there’ll be future generations?” An unjustified attack on Iran, as I’ve said before, might just spark the end of the world as we know it Overpopulation certainly won’t be one of its problems
Fort the most part, I’ve already lived the better part of my life, but that comment send chills off my spine. Because I regretfully think it is quite possble (if not likely) under current circumstances.
Been wrong a plenty in the past. Trust this is one of those times.
Americans would be completely average if we didn’t have so much power. As it is, we’re average people with power. The old saw about power corrupting has never been demonstrated so aptly.
Well, I’ll give you this, you have beyond all odds managed to make that “Palast-ine” crack seem witty . . . by comparison . . .
As opposed to when?
I am not posting my threads as cites, I am posting links to the threads so that the arguments, quotes, and links embedded within them will serve as cites. Saves time, y’know? Assuming the Doper to whom that is directed has both the ability and the will to look up, analyze, deconstruct, etc., etc.
But I appear to have given you far, far too much credit, in that regard.
Pardon. I misinterpreted your earlier posts in other threads to mean you were still in college. I mean, that would have explained so very much, in light of the mentality, or lack thereof, of so many College Pubs I knew back in the day. . . . Well, then, it’s very dissapointing a man your age could still think the way you do, but I still hold out some little hope. The mind never stops growing, never let your schooling interfere with your education, etc., etc.
Actually, I have three postgraduate degrees; as for Syria and Iran, see above, and think on it.
So you couldn’t really figure out what you wanted to do. Buck up, I give you an “A+” for persistence!
Say, don’t you feel just a little bad, just a mite hypocritical that you are able to attain at least four “degrees,” meanwhile pumping out 15 posts per day on at least one Internet message board?! :eek: I mean, what other society is permissive enough to let a guy fuck off that long in pursuit of apparently (in your case) gossamer edification? And somehow you bitch and whine about how the country’s going in the wrong direction. Oh well. To each his own.
That’s probably why you can’t ever seem to divorce support from understanding. One may, after all, comprehend and interpret the strategy of our government without supporting it. These are the things you learn after you’ve been out in public enough. I suspect you’ve never really had much use for social settings, so I can’t blame you.
Without this understanding, you’ll just keep flailing around at a per-thread rate of five posts to my one, never grasping how the US holds all the cards and the Coalition is benefiting from our largesse. And sadly, you continue to denigrate the Coalition when it’s obvious there are significant numbers volunteered from all over the world. According to figures, it’s 14,000 good people. That’s 2/3 of a Surge.
Through all this, it does appear that Syria is on the trolley. Why, even Turkey is making overtures to Russia in response to calls for reconciliation. And most importantly, Iran has announced it’s limiting its enrichment. Furthermore, if Ahmadinejad accepts the Swiss proposal and resumes talks, we’ve got a real opportunity to bring Iran under peaceful control.
By the balls and by the book, made possible by a misadventure called “Operation Iraqi Freedom.” Refute that.
What “cards” ? We’ve politically and militarily crippled ourselves; we have no “cards”. And the only ones benefiting from our “largesse” - a noble sounding word for corruption and incompetence in this case - are Bush’s corporate cronies like Haliburton.
No, there are zero good people; good people would never volunteer for such a thing. Only scum and fools.
Big whoop; they don’t have the ability to build a bomb, and won’t for a very long time; they’ve hit various snags in attempting to enrich the uranium recently as well. So, they, according to you, are agreeing to do what they have no choice but to do anyway. Not very impressive.
They’ve been trying to talk to us for years; we are the problem, not Iran. And talks won’t bring Iran “under control”; they are a sovereign country.
No one but a few fools like you believe that we are accomplishing anything useful in Iraq, or that Iraq has done anything but strengthen our enemies and make more of them. We don’t have them “by the balls”; we have ourselves by the balls, and we refuse to let go or even stop pounding on them.
Watch out, here comes another hot load of Goo!
Courtesy of Our Leader’s Iraq Distraction:
Y’know, if there is, in fact a God, now would be a really good time for a Rapture. Just take everybody who believes in You, and believes You want them to kill anybody for You, and let them be Your problem, instead of ours, OK?
Has no-one considered that they did see those very consequnces? One explanation that fits all the facts is that they saw the probable outcomes and were pleased. The destruction and civil war were themselves an ambition of the neo-cons.
“Kill 'em all; let God sort 'em out, eh?” And if God doesn’t show up, well, we can’t just let all this yummy oil go to waste, now can we?
According to some news accounts, Cheney and others are pushing for an attack on Iran.
That surprises me not one whit.
Time to rescind the AUMF; it’s been clear (to me for five years), that the Chimp can’t be trusted with it.
Bwuhahahahahahaha.
That is the funniest shit I have read in months.
Keep dreaming, buddy.
Would you like some more kool-aid?
We have upthread, and I’ll agree with you only so much. A “Military Industrial Ponzi Scheme to jump-start a flagging economy” is about as far as I can go, I’m afraid. I can’t go so far to believe “they” wanted outright civil war.
Among the other motives I’ve enumerated, the United States needed a war. For many reasons we needed a particularly messy, preferably bloody war. We’re doing that sufficiently already, so I can’t imagine there will be an incursion into Iran.
You can laugh all you like, but that’s the view from the rural big-small American town.
C’mon man, these pussies can’t even sneak non-binding shit past. What makes you think this’ll do any good?