He didn’t look like “angry old man” back when he was reading plagiarized speeches.
On a more practical note, if Biden is going to be the comic relief in this Administration, he can’t possibly sink lower than Agnew or Cheney.
In the interest of fighting ignorance, Biden never “read plagiarized speeches.” That’s total bullshit.
He admitted to plagarizing a time or two his first year in law school. And that was how long ago? Compared to some of the shit Bush and Cheney have pulled?
But I saw him do it. Well, he might have had them memorized. I am sometimes so inartful in my self expression.
Okay, so Biden never used a teleprompter or script delivering Kinnock’s lines at the Iowa State Fair ?
I didn’t realize he had such a good memory.
No you didn’t.
Crap. As I mentioned in the OP, I stayed up late last night expecting this segment on the Daily Show.
I’m on the west coast so now I’ll have to stay up two nights in a row. Thanks for the heads up though.
Did so. He Plagiarized Kinnock.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/2607505/Joe-Biden-plagiarised-Neil-Kinnock-speech.html
Even Mediamatters, a lefty org of my own liking excuses it by saying that Biden had credited the usage of the same quotes in other stump speeches during the same month.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200808230003 Well, I never heard the version with the accreditation. I did here the one without the accreditation. While it may have been Biden’s intent to credit, I didn’t hear it, it’s not as clear in the public record that he made the accreditation as he made the plagiarism. Even were I to accept a reporter of the NYT’s report that on another occasion his stump speech accredited properly, there is ample evidence that on occasions he did not, and that evidence, direct quoting (see the Telegraph link and article) give exact context.
I do not particularly hold this against Biden, he didn’t torture anyone and he committed no crime. But it is plagiarism.
He plagiarized nothing. He habitually quoted a few lines from Kinnock which he always attributed. On one occasion he forgot to give the credit. That’s what gave rise to the fatuous accuasations of plagiarism.
And few lines is not a “speech.” When you accused him of “reading plagiarized speeches,” that was false.
How is the President not the Vice President’s boss? A legislator or judge can, so to speak, follow his or her own lights, but doesn’t everyone in the Executive branch fit somewhere into a chain of management?
How so? From your own Mediamatters link:
Sounds as though the only difference “in the public record” is that the speech without the explicit acknowledgement of Kinnock was distributed on videotape—by a political rival of Biden’s, natch. Nobody bothered to distribute videotapes of any of the speeches that did contain the explicit acknowledgement.
Gotta agree with Dio, this is a pretty pathetic attempt at disparagement. Hasn’t Biden made any important mistakes or failures in the past 20 years that you can criticize him for without looking like a nitpicking doofus? I would certainly have thought so.
Oh here we go. After years of people like you getting mad at someone mentioning Clinton, every criticism of Obama et al gets a “but bush . . .” Pukey smiley please.
I didn’t realize Bill Ayers had blown up the Pentagon. Or maybe you’re just talking nonsense? Please, think before you post.
Well, the trouble with the knee-jerk conservative criticisms of Clinton was that they tended to be irrelevant and frivolous: the standard “But Clinton got a blowjob!” comeback.
Using Bush and Cheney as the benchmark for executive malfeasance is something else again. They didn’t just screw an intern, they screwed the whole country.
More than one whole country.
Exactly. Given what a total disaster the Obama administration has been, I was all set to vote Republican in 2012. But this kind of petty bitching has really turned me off the GOP.
Point of order –
Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
Just a blow-job. No screwing.
Yes, because a comparison of plagarizing back in one’s first year of law school is equal to starting an illegal war. Gotchya.
Besides, I never saw Cheney promote good dental hygiene.
The VP is elected in his own right. The President can’t dismiss him or force him to do anything, mainly in his role breaking ties in the Senate. Any tasks beyond that are up to the President but that’s irrelevant to the description of the VP role in the Constitution.
(golf clap)
Puts a tear in my eye, it really do.
-Joe