Frick now I know why all he stray Armadillos keep running from me. The bastards demand to RIDE IN STYLE!
thanks Zette,
Osip
Well, I’ve danced this dance with fatherjohn before… looks like he pussied out of the last thread and started this new one.
Well, to address his points…
And people who make generalizations are (frequently) idiots. “Poseurs”? “Macho assholes”? Seems like such a broad category that can include many different kinds of people. In fact, I’d think that people who drive those new VW Bugs would be “poseurs”, and people who drive Mustangs are “macho assholes”, just by the nature of the cars. But I know they’re not, since I’m not an insecure little ass who needs to find targets for my frustration.
Thre’re whole web sites devoted to scat-eating and tentacle-porn. There’re whole web sites devoted to racism. There’re whole web sites devoted to showing the world the most disgusting examples of human filth in the world. How does the existence of a website validate a point?
Bad analogy. A better one would be “if you’re against the Death Penalty, call people who are for it poseurs and macho assholes”.
SUV’s are the latest trend? Provide some evidence, considering they’ve been around for decades.
Please outline exactly how to “bully other drivers” in an SUV. Is it their size? How come we don’t hear about “minivan bullies”? Is it the horsepower? How come we don’t hear about “sports car bullies”?
Face it, Ol’ John, you’ve got nothing except a desire to complain about something. SUV’s just happen to be your most recent target.
Would you care to speculate as to how many Mustangs hit the track? Would you care to speculate as to how many “family cars” haul families?
What does it matter what the car is used for? Are you so desperate to validate your opinions that you need to grasp such flimsy straws?
The gist of your argument, Ol’ John, is “People don’t use these things for what they were originally designed”. Big fuckin’ deal. You got slammed in the other thread, and now you come back with the same bullshit as before. I wonder… after you get roasted in this thread, are you gonna wait a month and start again?
Well, I seem to see more people in big trucks “bullying” people. I do agree that buying an SUV just to drive to the grocery store and back is rather pointless and stupid. However, do you think that people who have large families, or haul a lot of gear around are stupid for purchasing an SUV? Why exactly do you vehemetly HATE SUV’s and the owners? Did an SUV bully you around when you were a wee lad? :rolleyes:
Johnny LA wrote:
You forgot where they say “Hey- there’s a crotch rocket in my way! Guess I’ll just skate right in front of him and make him jam on his brakes!”
Sorry Johnny- I just gotta rag on your bike at every opportunity 
Oh, and you know what? I think anyone who actually sits around fuming over SUVs, or people who take 12 items through the 8 item lane, or other ridiculous stuff needs to take a reality break. I strongly recommend a few hours of Oprah to help you get in touch with yourself. (Or maybe a few hours of touching yourself?) Or maybe pick up “Don’t Sweat the Small Stuff” to read while you’re in a traffic jam behind a big-assed SUV.
Life is too short to concern yourself with what other people drive. (Unless of course they don’t drive a Harley. Then you really MUST intervene for their sake. 
)
Zette
What does it matter what the car is used for?
“PROBLEM after you eat, you want to go off-roading on the neighborhood off-roading track.”
Source: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=60487
**Ooh, look at me? I am so kewl with my Japanese characters on my deck lid and “Powered by Honda” on my windscreen! **
“For a HILARIOUS site devoted to low-rider/tall wing/chrome wheeled/loud muffler/stickered up wanna-be Japanese cars, see”
I do love the way these flow together…
BORING!!* Don’t you have anything other than what people choose to drive to bitch about??
I’ve got lots of things…
Boring, indeed.
You made all of these points in that last thread, which was active as of 16 days ago. Why start a new thread to repeat yourself?
DadGUM, fatherjohn, are you at this shit AGAIN?
There’s a few simple reasons most people buy SUVs:
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[li]They like them.[/li][li]They need them.[/li][li]They’re extremely safe for the passengers.[/li][/ul]
All these points were covered in the earlier thread. You participated in that thread, and you know all this info already. What is your deal, anyway?
Remember: Friends don’t let friends drive Harleys. 
I’m not saying how much I paid for my Rolex, and you’re right that a quartz-movement Timex till keep better time. But I don’t wear it to impress people. In fact, I seriously doubt anyone notices it at all. I like it because it’s a neat-o machine. I like the way it works. I never have to buy batteries. And it can be compaired to a sculpture. It’s a piece of art that you can look at any time, and it even has a function. I like being able to see GMT at a glance. It’s far from useless. (Or were you calling yourself a “useless tool”? 
)
Monster104: There are a lot of zippy Hondas in Orange County where I work. Maybe that’s why I see more of them driving like jerks than I do SUVs.
Well, the guys over at Jeeps Unlimited might disagree that those are “real” SUVs. But that’s their opinion. I do agree that Cadillac, Lexus and Mercedes SUVs are silly. I might change my mind if I ever see one offroad (or at least covered with mud).
What I want to know is this: Why is fatherjohn so fixated on SUVs? Bad experience as a child? Someone in a Navigator cut him off? Maybe he’s a real offroader who’s offended by the Lexus and Cadillac poseur-mobiles? (Probably not that. He doesn’t seem to get it at all.)
Could someone please explain to me what the appropriate sized car is exactly? Is there a range of vehicle weight/mass that is acceptable?
For example: What is the heaviest a car/truck can be before it too big? Is < 2800 pounds the correct number?
Let’s just say that SUV’s “suck”. Apparently, it’s the size that contributes most to them “sucking”. Do “big” cars that make poorer use of their space “suck” as well?
Should all cars be under a certain height, length, weight?
I drive a truck/SUV hybrid - a pick up w/ four doors - and I feel lumped into a very broad group for no reason. I will use my truck to commute to work if the weather is poor, or if I have an errand to run after work (like picking up something for a family member, or hauling wood).
I work in an office, and if you saw me going to work in collar and tie, you’d consider me as driving an SUV w/ out purpose. That’s called stereotyping, and quite frankly, it’s not tolerated around here very well.
I have a boat, I do home projects, and I use my truck for it’s every purpose. But seeing me drive into work today, you might have cursed me.
The real problem around here is the fuck-face stereotypers who make points based on casual observation.
I too think it is funny to watch the Lexus SUV owners cruising to work, BUT I don’t know what they are doing with their cars based on seeing them for 20 seconds on the road!!! These people have lives, I assure you. The country is buzzing with activity. Wake up from your narrow world!!!
I do know this: I live between the mountains in Pennsylvania and the beaches of the Jersey shore, and when at the mountins I see many SUVs hauling all kinds of things, going into snow and hills, towing snowmobiles or campers. When I’m at the shore, I see people in SUVs towing sailboats, pulling pup tent trailers and backing up to bays to drop off boats, rafts and a whole bunch of things…people…gear…pets…
These are the people that you see for 20 seconds driving by or parking in a lot.
People are very diverse…they get around. People are camping, off roading, boating, skiing, snowmobiing, hiking, jet skiing, moving, hobbying, sailing, antiquing and doing everything…by the MILLIONS!!!
Just because you’re narrow life has constrained you to judging people based on your 20 second view of them doesn’t validate your right to stereotype everyone.
I suggest you find another forum which is tolerant of stereotyping.
You are a small person with a small life, not exposed to the diversity of the people that surround you. Your hate of the SUV/owner is not unlike many hates. The hate is indicicative of your weakness - YOU are dangerous to society…tenfold more than any vehicle. The people driving SUVs (and others driving other vehicles) and living diverse lives are the threads that bind the fabric of this nation.
Philster:
You’re clearly missing the point of the OP. No one does these things. You see, stereotypers have a skill that none of the rest of us have- the ability to read minds in an instant at all times. They know that SUV drivers are selfish sons-of-bitches who only own their vehicle to show off their vast wealth and pollute the enviornment. This is fact to them.
For example, an SUV stereotyper sees a nicely dressed woman driving an SUV down the road with no passengers. They already KNOW FOR A FACT that she never, ever:
goes camping, off roading, boating, skiing, snowmobiing, hiking, jet skiing, moving, hobbying, sailing, antiquing.
It’s simply not possible. She MUST be driving to the store to get milk in that big assed vehicle. She also could not be on her way to pick up a group of people or a truckload of stuff from Home Depot. Impossible.
They read her mind instantly and know that she is purposely driving all over the roads cutting people off and laughing at their choice of vehical thinking “HA! Good thing I’m so damned rich! If I ran one of those silly economy cars over, I wouldn’t even STOP! BWAAAHAAAAA! Screw the little people in thier little cars! I am power! I am woman!!!” (or is that just me?)
Are there jerks in SUVs? Hell ya! As well as every other kind of car. (obviously)
Remember, assuming you know someone elses reasons for doing something is just plain stupid. Forming an opinion about a large group of people based on your experience with a sample of those types of people is also stupid.
Get a grip, fatherjohn and all.
Zette
I note Ol’ John is ignoring me. Amusing… he knows I’m right so he’ll just pretend I don’t exist.
Ah, well, I wouldn’t want to hurt his overly-fragile self-esteem.
I don’t drive an SUV. Well, I don’t drive at all these days (I decided school is more important than insurance). When I DID drive, I stuck with my parent’s SUV, an Expedition. Given the size of our family, I don’t fault them at all for picking up the Ex… the only realistic alternative was a minivan, and they used to own one prior to the Ex and had nothing but trouble with it. So there goes the “Just get a minivan” argument.
Anyway, the reason I like SUV’s is because, being a pretty big guy (6’3", 240 lbs), I rarely come across a car I fit comfortably in. Hell, I don’t even fit into an Explorer very well. Do you know how hard it is to drive all scrunched up in a little ball? Annoyingly difficult.
If you were to put me into a Geo Metro, I can assure you that I’d be a far more dangerous driver than in an Expedition, just based on the fact that the unnatural contortions I’d have to make would give me less control over the vehicle.
So, apparently, Ol’ John thinks I should be shit-out-of-luck just ‘cuz I’m taller than the majority of the population. Well, Ol’ John (who can’t seem to make a decent argument to save his life*), feel free to take your pint-sized plastic 70-MPG SULEV’s and shove fifty or so up your ass. Hell, you’ve already got a couple in each ear, it seems.
*This is, what, the fifth or sixth time he’s linked to his oh-so-precious Poseur page? Wouldn’t that be considered “spamming”?
Ahhh, the pit.
fatherjohn: You’ve shown yourself to be prejudiced against drives of SUV’s, and now, you’re showing off to be racist against Asians. Will your next screen name be “David Duke Rulez”?
Actually, Cyn, I think he just doesn’t like things that don’t conform with his own personal guidelines.
I mean, aside from a couple one-sided, opinion-based satire sites, what does he bring to the discussion? Nothin’.
(Hey, that rhymed! Neat-O!)
“The term “Rice-Boy” is meant to be a derogatory term. But not racially derogatory. Some people might say that regardless of what this disclaimer says, it makes Asians look bad. Well, I hate to break it to these people but asians are not the only people on this planet who eat rice. Everyone eats rice. White people eat rice. Black people eat rice. Native Americans? They eat rice. Europeans eat rice!! And, if you open your eyes, you might notice that a whole lot of the rice-boys out there aren’t even asian! The “rice” really refers to their cars. It’s not about their race, it’s about their attitude!”
Since everything that is on the internet is a fact, then this very post will be referred to in the future by some intrepid young poster, when looking for a cite that fatherjohn is a jackass.
“fatherjohn is a jackass”
Source: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=60487
That’s your evidence to protect your ass against charges of racism? You can’t see how pathetically weak that is?
Black slaves weren’t the only ones who’ve harvested crops, so the term “nigger” refers to everybody.
White people aren’t the only people who have white body parts, so “whitey” refers to everybody.
Mexican’s aren’t the only only people who eat beans, so “beaner” refers to everybody.
You DO know what a “stereotype” is, don’t you, Ol’ John? And you DO know that “racial slurs” play off “stereotypes”, don’t you? Criminy, you’re so dense you make a black hole jealous.
“The term “idiot” is meant to be a derogatory term. But not racially derogatory. Some people might say that regardless of what this disclaimer says, it makes fatherjohn look bad. Well, I hate to break it to these people but fatherjohn is not the only person on this planet who is an idiot. Some white people are idiots. Some black people are idiots. Native Americans? Some are idiots. Some Europeans are idiots!! And, if you open your eyes, you might notice that a whole lot of the idiots out there aren’t even fatherjohn! The “idiot” really refers to their mental capacity. It’s not about whether they’re fatherjohn, it’s about their idiocy!”