[QUOTE=Layla01]
Dunno about the rest of the world, but around here it was red braces and/or red laces in the Docs which were a bit of a warning sign. That and the White Supremacist t-shirt…
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HH, 88, or swastika tattoos would be further indicators. (Assuming they’re of a neo-nazi bent.)
[QUOTE=Layla01]
Dunno about the rest of the world, but around here it was red braces and/or red laces in the Docs which were a bit of a warning sign. That and the White Supremacist t-shirt…
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There was also the twisty-finger hand sign.
Hoi Polloi is Greek, not Latin. It just means “The People.”
[QUOTE=Layla01]
Dunno about the rest of the world, but around here it was red braces and/or red laces in the Docs which were a bit of a warning sign. That and the White Supremacist t-shirt…
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Pardon me while I point out to my fellow Americans that “braces” are what we call “suspenders.” Will avoid confusion.
[QUOTE=Siam Sam]
Pardon me while I point out to my fellow Americans that “braces” are what we call “suspenders.” Will avoid confusion.
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Heh, I’m glad somebody cleared that up. I kept thinking: “Hey! Why didn’t MY orthodontist offer me red braces when I was growing up? That bastard!”
It varies by region. I know an ex-SHARP from LA who wears red shoelaces and gets confused for a Peckerwood* all the time here–in San Diego, if you wear red shoelaces it means you’ve committed a hate crime against a racial minority.
[QUOTE=Big Bad Voodoo Lou]
I demand a cite. The DKMs are all about blue-collar pride and solidarity, and they tend to draw a hard-drinking skinhead crowd at their shows, but I would LOVE to hear how they are racist in any way.
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Well, I apologize for passing on uneducated slander. A closer examination of their lyrics indicates that I’m totally wrong. If anything, they appear to be critical of racist behavior and mea culpa to the DKM’s. Thanks for fighting my ignorance. I’ll try to be a bit more critical in my thinking in the future.
“Oi!” was in fact so anti-racist that one of the the defining albums of the genre was called “Strength Thru Oi!”, and featured a nazi skinhead stamping on the front cover. :rolleyes:
Classy stuff. :dubious:
(I’ve read Gary “Tosser” Bushell’s justification for it, but you’d have to be utterly brain dead to miss the symbolism).
e-logic, “Oi!” was hijacked by the Nazis, just like skinhead culture itself. We covered this way back in the OP.
[QUOTE=fetus]
e-logic, “Oi!” was hijacked by the Nazis, just like skinhead culture itself. We covered this way back in the OP.
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Except that this album was put out by the “mainstream” (i.e. supposedly non-racist) Oi! collectives.
[QUOTE=Darryl Lict]
Well, I apologize for passing on uneducated slander. A closer examination of their lyrics indicates that I’m totally wrong. If anything, they appear to be critical of racist behavior and mea culpa to the DKM’s. Thanks for fighting my ignorance. I’ll try to be a bit more critical in my thinking in the future.
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It’s cool, I’ve heard that the DKMs are racist more than once, just due to the skinhead crowds they draw. But anyone who pays attention to their lyrics will realize that isn’t the truth. Not a problem.
A sibling of mine was a skin…one of the SHARP-related sub-groups.
My opinion is that, regardless of how you perceive or identify your fashion and style choices and present them to the world, you are going to have to accept the consequences of the public perception at large.
Whether or not you are racist, if you dress like the subset racist culture that also dresses that way, then the public is going to identify you with the American History X thugs. At that point, I would let the racists and nazis have their little fashion show, and find something else to wear to be an “individual”.
Illinois nazis…I hate Illinois nazis…
[QUOTE=Dr. Rieux]
Hoi Polloi is Greek, not Latin. It just means “The People.”
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Greek, yes, but it actually means ‘the many’, so it does have the connotation of ‘common people’.
